10-04-2001 22:45									#1
	Recommend me some good scenarios please Put an end to popups!

yes I know there are rankings here at apolyton and I use them. but often I end up downloading crappy ones. To narrow it down I like historical (no fantasy for me) war scenarios. but I like some explorations scenarios- but most aren't done that well. And I have played red front, but the # of units is a turn off for me.

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	11-04-2001 00:01									#2
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Alright, you want age of exploration? You got it:

• Alba De America By Jesus Balsinde You can play as Spain, Portugal, or the natives of the new world, such as the Inca or Aztecs. Availible from the Spanish Civilization site.
• The Spanish Odessey by Jesus Munoz Similar to Alba, but slighty different map and events and units. Available from the Spanish Civilization site.
• Colonies III By John Ellis You can play as Britain, France, Spain, and the New world civs, including the the Indians of North America. Available from the SCS also.

All of these scenarios start with limited cities and units at start, and you must try to build the great empires of the age. All three have new units, terrain, and wonders that are different from standard Civ-2. In fact, the Two Jesus are among the best at making their own units.
Edit: What war are you interested in? Anciet Rome? Crusades? American Civil War? Narrow it down a bit. Edit#2: Changed availablity of Colonies III. I didn't get it from ther, Jay Bee. I think I first got it from his homepage.
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	11-04-2001 01:43									#4
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I'll have to check that site out, I never knew there were links at the bottom of the page

as for what I'm interested in. I'm interested in everything (except maybe stone age war - warriors and horseman suck ass). Long as it is historical not fantasy.
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	11-04-2001 05:07									#5
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Red front was huge ! you spend the first five mins watching the germans pummell your pathetic russian troops..... if you play the germans its way too easy.....\

shoot sorry i missed the part where you played red front...... i think there is a sequel
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	11-04-2001 06:56									#6
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Just about ANYTHING from the Spanish Civ II site is worth your while. El Dorado is very different from a regular game, and very cool to boot. They also have modern scenarios.

Colonies III by J.Ellis is excellent. His Hellas scenario is also very good, and tough to win.

Rome280bc from the Apolyton Scenario League (by Rick Westera) is a huge improvement over the game's original Rome scenario.

Spartacus, by Alex the Magnificent and Captain Nemo, is very creative (also on Scenario League site).

Artaxerxes (Stefan Härtel, also on Scenario League site) is fantastic.

Hanti's 4 Seas Gold is pretty cool - about the rise of Venice.

But before you do anything else, play AGE OF PIRACY by Shay Yates Roberts. This was Civ innovation before anybody even thought about innovating, and still ranks at the top for good playability. His Sacrificial Blood pack is out, but I've only gotten thru the first level. As one can expect from SYR, it is very innovative and fun to play.

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	11-04-2001 22:42									#7
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the alexander the great scenario that comes with Fantastic Worlds pack is a good one with limited starting units, but i'm not sure if it is avaliable as a download

	11-04-2001 23:14									#8
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I just downloaded the colonys3 scenario. It looks very good- I just started, but I ended up playing diablo2 with my brother even though I said I would never play that game again. Well I will only play with people I know.

I tried piracy but didn't like it much. colony3 looks great. This is the kind of scenario where I want to play as several diffent civs including the indians. most scenarios I usually only want to play 1 or 2 civs (or they design them that way)

and in all my scenarios I never thought of maiking ocean squares def 150%. this should work good. both civ2 and smac suffer the same problem where the attacker usually wins on sea battles.
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	12-04-2001 00:37									#9
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I'm glad you like it. I understand why you were put off as far as scenarios go, not having seen how far they have come since the early days. Here is a list of some of my all time favorites:

1. Anciet Empires, the Early Empires by Kull
2. Of Celts and Iberians by Jesus Balsinde
3. imperium Romanium by Bebro
4. Justian By Carl Fritz
5. Cross and Cresent by Bebro This is not the scenario with the CD
6. Bonaparte by John Ellis
7. Brown man's burden by Carl Fritz
8. The Cuba War by Jesus Balsinde and Jesus Munoz
9. Second Reich by Mike Jezenka
10. 2194 Days of war by Captain Nemo and Alex Mor
11. Red Front by Captain Nemo and Alex Mor
12. Dawn of the Dead by Blackcove
13. Star Trek, Battle of the Alpha Quadrant by Kobayshi
14. Star Trek, Dominion War by Kobayshi

Anciet empires is my all time favorite, and I strongly suggest you try it soon. You will never regret it. All of these are fine scenarios, with new units and terrain, and are quite excellent. There are many more fine scenarios besides these out there.

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	12-04-2001 03:37									#10
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I kinda like the good old fashioned scenarios which don't come with new spanky units, govts, graphics etc.

I don't remember the names but the ones I played in no specific order:

[*]20th Century - the world as it looked just after WWI in 1918. Very nice though apparently many civs have TWO capitals. Victor and vanquished alike left Versailles bankrupt and impoverished. A vengeful Germany and her
neighbors create a new "Axis" alliance. Russia is consumed in a revolution that threatens to spread around the world. Britain struggles to maintain the Empire, while Japan seeks to forge a new one. The effectiveness of the newly created League of Nations is threatened when the United States seeks to return to isolationism.

[*]Holy land - same as new game, only middle east map and middle east civs. 7 tribes: Hittites, Assyrians, Jews, Medians, Babylonians, Persians and Egyptians, seek to build man's first organized civilization. Beginning in the 28th c. B.C., you have until 330 B.C., when the game ends due to Alexander the Great's massive army suddenly landing in Anatolia and wiping out everything you and your competitors have built. No new units, fairly nice to try and rebuild the ancient middle east into something it once was.


[*]The microprose WWII scenario !!!

[*]NW-Europe :
Jan 2025, economy collapsed, England, France, Italy, and several other nations joined named United Europe. Bosnia annexed into the nation in 2027. A commonwealth nation - the Balkan States: Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Albania and Yugoslavia. Germany in alliance with Poland and Austria. The seperated Russian provinces joined together under the leadership of the Ukraine. Europe is at war once again.

Has some new units but is quite well built and quite cool...

	12-04-2001 05:56									#11
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Sirotnikov, do you have the zip files for 20th Century and
NW-Europe? I also like the good old fashioned scenarios which don't come with new units, govts, graphics etc.

	14-04-2001 04:21									#12
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You want good scenarios? War scenarios? Here are my picks...


"1941dec" (SECOND WORLD WAR V1.0) .... B. Stein
This scenario is the best global World War II scenario I've ever played. The American and the British are one civ (which makes sense) and the sceanrio allows for getting unit upgrades at scripted times (true to actual history)...pick this puppy up.

"alt_WW79"...David Ledgard
This is a more "accurate" representation of the world of 1979. It is based on the original Microprose "WW79" scenario, but is more in tune with the political forces of 1979. Europe and Americans are one (as NATO), the Middle East is fundamentalist, there are Pro-Soviet and Pro-Western civs...great stuff.

"THE FIRST WORLD WAR vsn. 2.0."...Jesús Muñoz Fernández
Very intricate and detailed WWI scenario focusing on Europe. Large map. The scenario begins with the Germans fortified on a long front outside PAris. The French are opposite the Germans. There are only a handful of British units on the continent...very involving scenario which recreated the horrible slaughter of WWI when you see the massive amounts of units you'll have to sacrifice to break through enemy lines!


Those are my picks. If you want more, just ask! I found all these scenarios on the sites that are already linked to Apolyton, so you'll have no problems getting them!


Vitmore


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