16-06-2003 17:35									#31
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I'm going to buy makeo.com

	16-06-2003 17:37									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo I didn't feel like a proper member of the apolyton civ2 mp community with my traditional ideal of only posting if i actually had something to say. Now with my new job, and the time to post I can conform to the norm.

Yes, Join the club

	16-06-2003 17:37									#33
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as long as you don't

	16-06-2003 17:54									#34
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I can see its another hard day at the office for makeo

	16-06-2003 18:05									#35
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Spam... in the MP forum... Nahhhhhhh.......

Welcome back to the community Makeo

	16-06-2003 18:11									#36
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yah - welcome back to bosnia

	16-06-2003 18:13									#37
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I'm sure this is how the world views us Aussies trying to sort out the rules

	16-06-2003 18:21									#38
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That's because we're a nation of non-conformists

	16-06-2003 18:22									#39
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I just agree to whatever the other people want and then ignore them and do what i always do.

	16-06-2003 18:23									#40
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Hehe not only do the proposed Aussie rules heavily resemble Rah rules, but the Aussie rules thread now looks like the Rah rules thread.

An adage about imitation and flattery springs to mind.

	16-06-2003 18:25									#41
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it was you guys that suggested we have writen rules.

the problem is that the only Aussie who can write is finbar and he isn't around to help the rest of us dumbies out

	16-06-2003 18:31									#42
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Hehe not only do the proposed Aussie rules heavily resemble Rah rules, but the Aussie rules thread now looks like the Rah rules thread. An adage about imitation and flattery springs to mind.

We would only adopt Rah rules to mock and trash them.

I have never read them and have no intention of doing so, even if we use them.

	16-06-2003 19:48									#43
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Hmmm, you didn't violate any of them when you played with us.

	16-06-2003 21:35									#44
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well put Rah... its a shame you guys can't agree on rules....makes it simple.....besides dn't you play similar rules every game

	16-06-2003 22:01									#45
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Are you studing or going to work in a project?

What should you use your Spanish to?

	16-06-2003 22:20									#46
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I'm trying to learn. Both web design and Spanish. Both for fun really. I'm hopefully going to spain later this year.

	17-06-2003 02:40									#47
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Dont, the food is **** and its full of drunk english, dutch and germans

	17-06-2003 04:34									#48
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quote: Originally posted by rah Hmmm, you didn't violate any of them when you played with us.

No of course - I instinctively adapt to the rules in play

	17-06-2003 07:13									#49
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They have better food than UK and don't forgot that they have 10 times better climate! Propably the reason the english is going to Spain and got so happy and celebrate by be drunk

	17-06-2003 17:34									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse No of course - I instinctively adapt to the rules in play

Cute.

	19-06-2003 10:37									#51
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Just been tidying this up a bit and adding a few things...

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Aussie Rules - Ripped from Rah Rules, ripped from Makeo’s Oz Rules…

Part 1. Settings

Level: Deity
Barbarians: Villages Only
Production: 1x
Movement: 1x
Map: by agreement
Number of Civs: Number who show; no starting AI’s
Time limit: None or by agreement
Huts OK
Turn-based
No city bribe
Unit Bribe by consensus – usually no unit bribe
Wonders by agreement – usually all Wonders allowed
Usually no alliances nor any use of the Gifting or Ceding mechanisms

Part 2. Special stipulations

Part 2a. NOT Allowed:

· Taking too long on your turn without good reason
· Stealing Shields – very boring and for the time-wasters
· unsinkable boats and non-crashing aircraft – this is done by just moving your craft 1 less space than its available movement and pressing Wait followed by using the End turn keyboard shortcut
· Contact with AI - i.e. when someone drops and the AI takes over you many NOT initiate contact and you must refuse all contact with the AI
· wonder trading
· unit teleporting (includes caravans) – otherwise during your turn you could move a unit and then gift it to your partner for him to move; then he gives it back to you and you can move it again in the same turn giving you unlimited movement
· blatant cheats (eg map peeking)
· non-unit creation – done by moving a unit from the city that it is homed to, to another city. Open the screen to home it to the new city and wait till the machine is switching over to your turn, quickly pressing the homing selection. If you catch it right the unit will not home to the new city but become a non-unit
· sabotage proofing - similar to non-unit creation, i.e. when a diplo approaches your city open the build queue and make ready to buy the item. When the diplo sabotages production the shields that you had will still be in the box.
· lag-related cheats
· cheat-o-matic - a tsr that allows the game parameters to be changed on the fly while the game is running
· caravan re-homing - unlike normal units you cannot hit the 'h' key to change the home of a caravan - however the 'support from this city' option is available from within the city screen - this has led people to believe that re-homing is not an intended feature and hence is a cheat
· disbanding units after losing the city or unit
· hard feelings
· NO city bribe - If the barbs take a city, you OR anyone else may bribe it. BUT, If someone drops out of the game and the AI takes over, and bribes one of your cities. Only the person that owned the city may bribe it back, since it normally shouldn't have been bribed in the first place. AND others should refrain from conquering the city until the original players has taken back control
· airbases - unless used as real airbases, i.e. not allowed in your city radius nor are you allowed to build a line of them to block air lanes

Part 2b. Allowed:

· incessant whinging
· automated settlers
· incremental buying
· black clicking
· tech stealing agreements
· trade agreements - to allow caravans to be delivered
· all other player arrangements - any agreements can broken when advantageous
· selling improvements - selling an improvement in anticipation of losing a city to enemy attack is allowed as long as the sale is conducted prior to the loss of the city
· pre-worked settlers - a settler starts working on something like transforming grassland to forest (or anything that takes longer than a turn) but before he finishes just clear the command. The turn that he spent working is "saved up" for the next command you give
· selling improvements/disbanding units before losing the city/unit - disbanding units in anticipation of losing the unit to bribery IS allowed so long as it's done before the bribery occurs
· diplo-guiding - using a diplomat or spy (or any other unit that ignores ZOC) to lead other units through an enemy's zones of control
· Scouse Gits' Magic Hut Finder
· tech trading

Part 3. Good sportsmanship to agree to :
· restart when a player gets an Arctic Start – i.e. If you walk the whole way around the arctic without finding a continent
· restart when the host gets techs
· not penalise player drops (reload if required)

Last edited by deity on 21-06-2003 at 08:17

	19-06-2003 10:39									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse No of course - I instinctively adapt to the rules in play

*instinctively adjusts dialog*

	19-06-2003 17:12									#53
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Didn't know you guys allowed tech trading.

I guess posted rules are good for something

	21-06-2003 08:19									#54
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Yeah, good point

	21-06-2003 19:52									#55
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yeah we want to finish a game before we die.

	22-06-2003 05:23									#56
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Spending time discussing rules is not taking away from game time. They are mutually exclusive.
Although rapid agreement on the rules or guidelines will certainly speed up games where disputes occur...

	28-06-2003 17:59									#57
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Some questions related also to Aussie rules are posted to RAH rules V: Attack of the Ferrets .

	28-06-2003 18:01									#58
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rah is not an aussie so he has nothing to do with aussie rules.

	28-06-2003 18:22									#59
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quote: Aussie Rules - Ripped from Rah Rules

So your rules are second-rate and I posted to rah rules thread.

	30-06-2003 10:14									#60
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AH i wouldn't call it adapting