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Firelad is offline Firelad
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Haifa, Israel.
May 2002
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http://www.indymedia.org.il/imc/webcast/59173.html

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Yediot Aharonot poll: 67% of Israeli public oppose assassinations

[Translated and excerpted by TOI-Billboard from an article by Sever Plotzker, prominently published today (June 13) in Yediot Aharonot, Israel's largest mass-circulation paper.]

Majority of Israelis Opposed to Policy of Liquidations.

According to an opinion poll conducted by Dr. Minah Tzemach for our weekend supplement, only a third of the public consider the liquidations to be in Israel's interest. Opposition to the liquidations
is
especially tied up with giving a chance to the new Palestinian administration. 58% of Israelis call upon Sharon and Mofaz to suspend the liquidations at least temporarily, so as to enable Abu-Mazen and his people to establish themselves at the Palestinian helm. This in
addition to the 9% who just demand an end to the liquidations, period.

This sweeping opposition to liquidations is a new and unprecedented phenomenon. The poll whose results are presented here was conducted in the immediate aftermath of the failed Rantisi assassination, the bloody suicide bombing in the Jerusalem bus and the retaliatory helicopter gunship attack on Gaza. It can be said to measure in real time the public's instinctive, gut-feeling reaction to
this new outbreak of the suicide bombing/liquidation cycle. In the past the public, trapped in the inexorable logic of war, tended to support be great majorities any anti-terrorist measure proposed and implemented by the army and security services. No more.

The cheering which in the past followed news of (yet another) Hamas arch-terrorist liquidated is replaced with deep anxiety about the results of such a deed. The public seems finally to have overcome its addiction to seeing senior Palestinians assassinated. Even if the liquidations
reach the very top of Hamas, to Sheikh Yassin himself, would not another Sheikh immediately step up to fill his place? And what terrible revenge would the Sheikh's followers exact?

And the shift in pubic opinion is not limited to the issue of liquidations alone. The war in Iraq, the appointment of Abu Mazen and the Akaba Summit have had far more influence then expected on the Israeli collective consciousness. Cynicism and scepticism gave place to belief. Suddenly, hope was born, a willingness to give a chance to the
the new processes. The attempted assassination of Hamas activist Rantisi shocked by its evident stupidity. About half the respondents in this poll conceive it as liquidation, not of Rantisi but of the new chance.
True, 43% of the public do accept at face value the official explanation on which the Prime Minister and other political and military leaders insist: i.e., that Rantisi is a dangerous terrorist leader, and that when intelligence about his movements became available it had to be immediately used in order to kill him. But an equal 43% don't buy this operational explanation. 40% of the public directly accuse the political echelon of using the "Rantisi excuse" for the sole purpose of sabotaging the Roadmap. Another 3% consider the government to have acted out of a mixture of the two motives, the legitimate one and the sly one. The percentage of citizens rejecting the government's
explanations and attributing pernicious motives is very high by all criteria.

The army, too, should be worried. When the number of citizens who regard the army as a willing pawn in a cynical power game equals that of those who believe in the bona fides of the generals' professional judgement, the army seems to have developed a credibility problem which it did not have at any previous moment of the ongoing intifada.
The shift in public opinion is evident also in the answers to other questions, most conspicuously with regard to opposing the occupation. This loaded word, "occupation", which prime ministers hitherto always rejected, is now widely accepted in the Israeli pubic as a fitting and accurate description of the situation in the territories. Our poll shows 67%, two out of every three Israelis,
accepting the assertion that "the occupation is bad for Israel".

DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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How respected is Yediot Aharonot? Is it anything like Gallup in the US?

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hi ,

how many people did they poll , from what class , from what region , ......

there is something fishy about this , .....

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Az is offline Az
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It doesn't do the polls itself, it orders a firm to do it. pollmakers have predicted elections very accurately lately.

on the topic, I think the results are skewed due to the proximity of poll to the unfortunate missing of Rantisi.

Firelad is offline Firelad
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The poll was conducted by Minah Tzemach, our most famous poll conducter

And Azazel, the proximity is the whole point. Note that the poll was conducted in even closer proximity to the bus bombing and the retaliation. In any case, good to hear some more or less decent news.

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well, you always get unregular results like that on such occasions.

Eli is offline Eli
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Jul 2000
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A Maariv poll from the day before gave different results.

Sirotnikov is offline Sirotnikov
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A poll by another leading Israeli newspaper, Maariv showed the following:


Are you pleased with Sharon's general function as PM?
Pleased - 47%, Unpleased - 44%, Don't Know - 9%

(previous poll: Pleased - 44% Unpleased - 48%)

Among Likkud voters: Pleased 72, Unpleased - 23
Among Labour voters: Pleased 50, Unpleased 39


Do you support the roadmap, the political plan that is meant to get a deal with the palestinians?

Support - 57%
Resist - 31%
Don't Know - 12%

Among Likkud voters: Support 48%, Resist 40%



In the Aqaba summit, Abu Mazen promised to fight terror and voilence. do you think he will keep his word?

Will - 30%
Won't - 63%
Don't Know - 7%


Do you support or resist evacuation of illegal outposts in the territories?

Support - 66%
Resist - 26%
Don't Know - 8%

Among Likud voters: Support - 59%, resist - 34%


etc...

Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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Do you support or resist evacuation of illegal outposts in the territories?

Support - 66%
Resist - 26%
Don't Know - 8%

Among Likud voters: Support - 59%, resist - 34%



Now, I'd like to see the same question with the "legal" outposts. I wonder if many Israelis think that colonies in general should get rid of, or not.

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Just because the majority thinks something doesn't make it right. In fact, in the majority of cases, it doesn't

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Methinks in this case, it does.

These settlements are illegal under international law, and I think even Israeli law! They are violations of Palestinian land, they are provocative, and a hurdle to peace in the region.

I think that they should be given a choice. Upon the foundation of any Palestinian state, they can either move to Israel, or their communities can become part of a new Palestine, under Palestinian authority. A tough choice, but then, they present little reasonability, and I think the settlers quasi-militant attitudes will come back and bite them in a sore spot.

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Spiff - that has no difference.

Most Israelis can think what they want. It's a question of strategy.

If we'd have no strategy and no goals in the ME, I'd be all for evacuating the places.

But I think we should and can only evacuate them after a long and tedious peace process, and until then, they are to be used as trading cards in the process.

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Indymedia? Indymedia? Gimme a break...

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Indymedia didn't make the poll. Only quoted it from the most popular Israeli newspaper.

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All media sources are biased, but not all have an open extremist agenda...

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These are pleasing poll numbers. Hopefully the Isreali people will be able to enact the things they believe in the future, even if the current administration does not believe the same way.

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These are pleasing poll numbers. Hopefully the Isreali people will be able to enact the things they believe in the future, even if the current administration does not believe the same way.


hi ,

thats complete nonsence this gov and admin tries to do whatever it can , .....

so please , ...

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These are pleasing poll numbers. Hopefully the Isreali people will be able to enact the things they believe in the future, even if the current administration does not believe the same way.

We're eager to please, Lord Sauron.

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