15-06-2003 13:34									#1
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We are weak when we should be strong !

We are poor when we should be rich !

We are despised by the powerful civilizations when we should be respected and feared !

We lack vital technologies in dangerous times when we should be ahead of all others !

And now our freedom is confiscated by a pope who has alone decided to render justice without judges, without laws ! Noble men are trialed for no reason ! Tomorrow you could be condemned by this Pope because you have parked your carriage in a wrong place ! A civilization is sinking when the historical rights of the nobles are under attack !

How could all this have happened ?

Because the King let the Pope take over the secular justice.

Because the King, lost in his dream of diplomatic prowess did not realize that the really powerful civilizations did not bother to talk to him; because the trade of technologies resulted primarily in our financing the research of our competitors; because we wasted our resources in badly though adventures.

What must be done ?

The Togas dynasty has given to Spain all what it was able to deliver; it is now exhausted and King Togas must be given an early retirement and a certificate for good conduct. Then the nobles should elect another King on the basis of a agenda aiming to master the current critical situation.

Spain is in great danger, all patriots must act quickly.


Tomas de Torquemada

	15-06-2003 14:19									#2
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Shall I get the rope for the hanging of this naysayer King Togas?

To take care of judicial/secular matter's, perhaps the King can appoint judges to the "Kings Court"?

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Togas has done a very good job, sure all teams make mistakes when you have the benefit of hindsight to root them out.

IMO, Togas has done everything for the benefit of Spain and has done so with very good results. I support the continued rulling of King Togas in this Monarchy.
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	15-06-2003 14:29									#3
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My above post has nothing to do with the actual performance of Togas. It is a political statement. Political = Lie and bad faith.
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	15-06-2003 17:15									#4
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O quack! O horror! Fie! Fie! A double post! A double post! Lock the doors, there is treason herein!

	15-06-2003 17:15									#5
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For treason, which Senor Torquemada will soon be answering to, their can only be one court...the King's!

Let us form a law court in Spain once and for all, appoint Prosecutors and Defenders, and Judges. Ecclesiastical court is one thing, but we shall need the secular court to deal with treason.

But what is this?

How now, egg? What find I here? A Torquemada starting a revolution? Unheard of! You men of Torquemada are loyal and brave, strong and wise, not foolish and brash. And why do you blame the Pope for all Spain's misfortune? Be thou a pea-wit, O Sorry Torquemada?

Nay! That cannot be so...for thou art no Torquemada that I know! This "Tomas" cannot be a real Torquemada, but an imposter! Yay! So it is, so I say! I'll wager 2 gold that he's just a disguised fishmonger of rank and dishonest origin!

So, so, thou stinketh, impudent fishmonger! I clappeth my nose in revulsion! The carp, it wreaketh off thy very marrow! O most sorrowful fishmonger! Know ye not that treason is a crime?

Aye, aye, let us form the secular courts, and bring to justice the treasonous rebels before us.

Don Iago Calamari de Toledo

[ooc] DAVOUT, I'm just glad we've got Torquemadas in this kingdom! [/ooc]

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	15-06-2003 17:17									#6
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OOC: If you had posted this before Roberto's confession he would have chimed in in agreement...well, depending on the outcome of the trial he still may do so .

	15-06-2003 17:27									#7
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[ooc] Errrrr...de la Civ's crime was actually against the Church's ruling...he shouldn't have been tried in the secular courts. That's only if, say, Don Calamari gets found with a knife in his back and a note signed 'The Mysterious Bob Calamari' pinned to his lapel. Then it'd be a murder case in the secular court. [/ooc]

	15-06-2003 19:17									#8
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Guards! Arrest this man! immediately! Put him in the dungeon! Is anyone else willing to keep this Torquemada company?

The Swiss Guards arrest Torquemada and take the shouting and insulting man away.

I demand Seņor Libre to collect evidence against this man. I cannot tollerate someone to insult me.

Cardinal Winterius, prepare for trial. It should be a short one this time.

Pope Aidun I

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	15-06-2003 23:32									#9
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This is an Heresy at itīs maximum stage, but also a rebelious action. An insult against a God-chosen king and against the Father of the Church. Cardinal Calamari can only be correct that it is a fake Torquemada. Either way, this Torquemada/fishmonger/rebel/whateverheis shall be judged accordingly. I shallbe talking to The King and to The Pope about this case and I shall see to it that all proper laws are followed. As a member of the nobilty and as a member of the clergy I shall acomplish mine task.
I kindly ask that all the nobles here present please keep this case confidential. We donīt want the masses to hear these talks about Republikahnishme.
Signed,
Pablo Winterius the I

	16-06-2003 02:23									#10
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Aye, a meeting of Church and State is needed for such a capital crime, for it is at best capital as best crime is when best...errrr...and so on.

High treason against the Crown, heresy against the Church. These are the two most dreadful crimes to be committed, but together...I must say, it is terrible indeed.

Don Iago Calamari de Toledo

	16-06-2003 04:06									#11
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The pope and his throat-cutters should be cautious : I am not talking to them but to the people of Spain who decides everything in last resort.

	16-06-2003 04:14									#12
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I have given this matter to the chuch and to the Holy court of the Inquisition to decide.

Men should not be judged by men. It is far better to have them judged by the servents of God, who's wisdom and justice are far greater than that which rules the savage hearts of men.

--Justino Togas

	16-06-2003 09:49									#13
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And next this man will be claiming that the cure to all our "problems" is in a magic sugar pill he sells. We all know this type.

Burn him!

	16-06-2003 20:53									#14
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Yes, let Senor Libre begin this trial at once!

Torquemada thinks he speaks to the people of Spain, but doesn't realize that all they want is a good barbeque.

	17-06-2003 06:26									#15
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I shall start the proper judgement tomorrow. No need to hurry, our prisions are confortable Seņor Torquemada.And the swiss will make sure you are kept safe untill then.

	17-06-2003 06:49									#16
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quote: Torquemada thinks he speaks to the people of Spain, but doesn't realize that all they want is a good barbeque.

Barbecue? Where could I find some?

Daniel de la Civ

	17-06-2003 07:15									#17
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Heh heh heh...

Tomorrow...

Oh! But if you want a steak burger and some BBQ Buffalo Calamari, come to the Iberian Delight!!

	18-06-2003 20:40									#18
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When arriving to bring the prisoner to the trial, the guards find their swiss counterparts lying dead across the prsion floor. The door is open and the prisoner gone. All the other prisoners who might have seen something are also gone or dead.

All that can be found of trace is a bloodstained piece of black cloth clutched in the hand of one of the swiss mercenaries. On the inside a skillfully embroidered mark can be found reading: EdV

	19-06-2003 02:11									#19
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[jk]When arriving to see what happened, Pablo Winteirus drinks the blood of the swiss guards. This turns him into a giant robot, wich he uses to destroy all life in Spain and in the rest of the world. He then proclaims himself god of civilization.[/jk]
[ooc]Hmm, I wonder what comes next... is he going to kill the army of GS all by himself in one day? or maybe he is going to steal the Piramids and bring them to Spain on his backs... who will know? If he can kill a company of swiss guards alone, and they donīt even have the chance to ring the emergency bell, or to alert someone with their screams while they die, there must be no limit to this manīs power. Maybe he is God Himself? [/ooc]

	19-06-2003 02:15									#20
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This is why I told some I don't want to be the presecutor any more. Things got to 'fantastical' in the last trial; too much like a Soap Opera, where the impossible or at least the improbable happens on the hour.

If people can get into some serious Role Play, then I'm back in, but as it stands now, I am turned off.
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	19-06-2003 02:16									#21
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The Swiss Guards stand up and admit that they were kidding. All of them are severely reprimanded for this idiotic joke, and the commanders all begin to wonder what part of Switzerland these goons came from...

A few days later, a new contingent of guardsmen arrives in town, and the old chaps are sent home.

Torquemada is still in jail, and exceedingly miffed.

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	19-06-2003 11:28									#22
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*Tomas represses a smile. Miffed ? Are you sure ? I have the feeling that some nerves have been touched ...*

	23-06-2003 18:01									#23
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[OOC] No no no! My arabian assamite mercenaries killed off the swiss guards! There's nothing extraordinary about that (except assamite's being vampire's according to whitewolf). There was even a clue leading to the tailor of the black garments who resided in vigo where I was hiding the traitor, but I guess no one were up for a detective story [OOC]

	24-06-2003 05:50									#24
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[ooc] Pal, killing a whole company of guards is diferent from killing 2 or 3 of them. The prision was said to be in the headquarters of teh Swiss guard, wich has many, many units of soldiers, with interconected rooms, alarm bells, and all the proper arangements. It is impossible for someone to enter, kill them all and leave without alerting people! Besides, if there is no magic in the world we are roleplaying, then let us do a serious roleplay. Even modern, fully equiped elite corps donīt go around killing platoons and battalions, they do invade, accomplish a mission and leave (and we are talking about guys with such thigns as C4 explosive and silencer guns, and all a number of technologic parafernalia).
Well , that is it
Nuke
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