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Jun 2001
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CTW is my favorite way of playing this game, but there's still some things I'd like to see added:

The possibility to play the game with different options:

When a nation looses his/her capital, they shouldn't be kicked out of the game, but instead they should simply lose their special abilities, until they've got their capital back again...

I also prefer to have a little more Civ over this game, where you choose which discovery to discover next, during the turns... you'll have different options: Upgrade 1 of the units of your own choice, until next turn, or wait four turns, untill you discover the next age...
This means you will only be able to discover library researches during the game. Maybe after holding 10 areas, you'll be able to get to next age one turn fast, while you'll be able to upgrade 2 units in one turn...
This of course, makes the game last longer
...and as I said: This should be optional, since I know many people wont like it...


One more thing: The ability to have several attackers on the same country, during a turn. E.g. Rome and France have chosen to attack Germany in the same turn, during the fight, each player has two enemies instead of just one. When Germany looses the capital, Germany is out, but the other players still fights to take over Germanys capital (= The owner of Berlin, when the 90 minutes are gone, is the winner)...
...Maybe this is in the game, but I have yet to see it, I'm only playing my second game now...

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hmmm... i want it so u can pick cities and army build/upgrades

the one more thing: sounds nice, but i assume its already in the game (if the situation is presented)

i like losing once ur capital is gone, that way, no matter how big ur empire, u will lose if ur knocked off the throne.... maybe they can add that u can change capitals...

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I also like the capitol loss feature. I don't think it should be changed.

I like your dual attackers idea, but I think it would suck if the computer ganged up on me, so perhaps it could be an option that could be turned on or off.

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The computer can gang up on you already if it has any ally adjacent when it attacks. Im glad you cant turn it off as the 2 on 1 matchs are really enjoyable.

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I also like the capitol loss feature. I don't think it should be changed.


That's why it should be optional... I just think it's stupid that you lose all your country, when taking over the capital...

quote:
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I like your dual attackers idea, but I think it would suck if the computer ganged up on me, so perhaps it could be an option that could be turned on or off.


Well... if several nations attacks the same area, then they're all at war (unless some of them are allies of course)... the holder of the capital, when 90 mins are up, is the winner... that's the capital of the one who's holding the area in the first place...

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CTW is so fast... it would be nice if it took much longer in each age. If you're not conquering a province a turn, you're not going to conquer the world.

And I really don't like not being able to attack in more than one spot per turn.

I also lament the fact that you can't play CtW in multiplayer.

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Jun 2003
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Like Darthveda's idea. Having a bunch of friends group togeather as diffrent civs and starting an online CTW would be prety cool to me.

Example: You are romans, 1 of your friends are germans. If you are online when your friend is, then you can contact him, set up the game. You attack your friend and win. That is your turn. All of your other friends must play out thier turns before you play yours again. The germans want the land back, so they set up game when you are online and try to take it back.

It might sound confusing, but think about it. It would be cool.

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I have thought about CtW MP also, though in a little different way:

[turn start]

Each player logs on to a server, where the game is played, and chooses where they want attack (on the big map), from where, and which units to move. Maybe also if they want to propose to be ally with some other country... and whatever can be changed there...

When everybody has made their orders, an automatic mail is sent to the players, saying who attacks who, and where... It also tells which players to contact, to play the game... That means, if player A and player B both attacks player C, all three have to find some day, when they can play the game, those players then logs on to the server, starts the game (automaticly), plays it...

When everybody has played their fight(s) for the turn, a new email is sent out, so all players knows it's time to login again, and choose where to attack, etc, again

[/turn ends]

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When a nation looses his/her capital, they shouldn't be kicked out of the game, but instead they should simply lose their special abilities, until they've got their capital back again...

I wanted to make the exact same suggestion myself! So I couldn't agree more

The other suggestions sound good as well but IMO this one (or something similar) I would really, really want to see in a future patch/expansion pack.

HuangShang is offline HuangShang
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is it just me or is the no-navy in CtW so annoying?

I was playing China... conquered the Mongols and Allied the Japanese... but i had all the territory around Japan and Korea, so from early on, the Japanese just sat there... for the whole thing...

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Howabout PBEM CtW? You could play your turn- fighting the AI, defending from the AI, etc. but when players attack each other, you have to meet in a normal multiplayer setting...

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Jun 2001
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is it just me or is the no-navy in CtW so annoying?


It's just you

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I'm relatively new to RON, so I may just be missing some basics. Can you change the cost/speed of technology in CTW? I always play highest cost tech to enjoy some time with each set of units in quick battles. Can't seem to adjust anything on CTW.

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Jun 2003
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CTW is so fast... it would be nice if it took much longer in each age. If you're not conquering a province a turn, you're not going to conquer the world.

And I really don't like not being able to attack in more than one spot per turn.


Agreed. See below for how to decrease aging time.

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Can you change the cost/speed of technology in CTW?


Yes, you can, you have to do some file editing though
I beleive the file name is
Rise of Nations\conquest\CTW_World_Map_01.xml
and the line your looking for is
turns_per_age="x" Replace the "x" with what ever number you would like to play with.

On a side note, if you do this, and CTW does become Multiplayer, you will probobly have to remember to change the number back to "3" for it to work.

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is it just me or is the no-navy in CtW so annoying?


agreed... I especially hated it when I only had one enemy left, and I could have gone straight across the ocean to his capital... but NO I had to follow those damn lines.... I had to make my way across like 3-4 of his provinces just to get to his capital.... Oh well.. we can always hope for it in the X-pack i suppose.

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Conquer the World is kind of lame. I'm sure the BhG guys sat around thinking it would be a cool feature, but it's not. Sorry guys.

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Jun 2003
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agreed... I especially hated it when I only had one enemy left, and I could have gone straight across the ocean to his capital... but NO I had to follow those damn lines.... I had to make my way across like 3-4 of his provinces just to get to his capital.... Oh well.. we can always hope for it in the X-pack i suppose.


You can ally in mid game with a civ that has a close close capital that looks like it will be one of the last 2. Then when its just you and them, you dont have to take so much out.

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I like the idea of instead of losing your entire empire, you just lose the special abilities if you lose the capital. Either that or, like in Civ, where there's a chance that the nation is devided into factions.

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You can ally in mid game with a civ that has a close close capital that looks like it will be one of the last 2. Then when its just you and them, you dont have to take so much out.


Ally'ing.... I don't like the sounds of that
As of yet, I haven't really used much diplomacy in CTW besides buying territorys... which is far to easy/cheap I think.

but yes you are right about I could of allied with someone, but just using that as a example, it would still be nice to attack across the ocean without those lines.

And does the complete absense of a National Navy confuse anyone?
I mean, you can make navies in the game and all, but you should be able to make and deploy naval ships on the turn based map. I got a idea how it could work with resource gathering, and a extended idea of national borders, but I suppose that will have to wait for another day.

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yea, the no-navy is kinda stupid on BHG part

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Are we talking about the Capital as in a single battle, or on the main CTW map?

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Are we talking about the Capital as in a single battle, or on the main CTW map?


Well, I was thinking specifically about CTW, but in single battles it would be cool, too.

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Conquer the World is kind of lame.


It's as lame as Risk. I love CTW, because it's just what I always wished I could do playing Risk as a kid.

(Risk doesn't have navies either

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It's as lame as Risk. I love CTW, because it's just what I always wished I could do playing Risk as a kid.

(Risk doesn't have navies either


I love Risk... too bad I didn't know a single person who wanted to play that game... and still doesn't

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ADG, I'm in a local RISK league... I play everyother weekend with 4 or 5 other people. Nice games. Sometimes classical, sometimes house-rules. I'm always up for some RISK... i dunno how we could play, but i'f you find a way, tell me.


I to love CTW, cause I always wished that instead of 'rolling the dice', I could load up a RTS or something.

In fact, we did this with Age of Kings few years back. (used a RISK board made from MS Paint over the net.) Whenever there wa a battle, you would load up AoK and battle it out. Was pretty tedious though. We eventually used other RTS, like Sudden Strike, and Midieval Total War.

The ages do go by very quickly, thanks Poogas for that little bit of editing info.. I'll have to try it out with like 10 turn ages.

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"Mr. Chambers! Don't get on that ship! We've mastered the book, To Serve Man.... it - its a cook book!"

A delightful short sci-fi story I haven't read in quite some time. What was the book title & author?

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ADG, I'm in a local RISK league... I play everyother weekend with 4 or 5 other people. Nice games. Sometimes classical, sometimes house-rules. I'm always up for some RISK... i dunno how we could play, but i'f you find a way, tell me.


I wish, but there's no way I can get to USA... at least for the next couple of years

But I believe you'd find a game with me, kinda boring, since I haven't played this game against another human player, since I was about 6-8 years old...

I have played it on the computer a little, but it's not that fun, so I don't play that often...

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http://www.dominategame.com/

Risk clone, pretty cool, custom maps ,custom rules, play against humans , bots

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"Mr. Chambers! Don't get on that ship! We've mastered the book, To Serve Man.... it - its a cook book!"

A delightful short sci-fi story I haven't read in quite some time. What was the book title & author?


I thought it was a twilight zone episode...

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I thought it was a twilight zone episode...

Most Twilight Zone episodes were based on short stories ...
I don't recall the "Mr. Chambers" bit, so it might well have been from the TZ.

In the book, the aliens were pigs (i.e., at least their heads looked like pigs).

Back to sorta On Topic:
I haven't played CtW yet.

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Back to sorta On Topic:
I haven't played CtW yet.




And what is your escuse if I may ask?

 
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