15-06-2003 16:19									#1
	War plans Japan 725 BC Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Things have changed since the last poll, the original plan was for 6 units in the attack of Kyoto but it seems only 4 will be in place, we lost one Horsey to the barbs and it seems the president chose to use the chariot to continue exploring rather than move it into place for the attack.

The 4 units shall be in place in 4 turns for an attack on the 5th. The forse is made up of 2 legion, 1 archer and a veteran horse.

I ask the people to vote as to continue with this attack or not.

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	15-06-2003 16:33									#2
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Will we be able to slither past the Legion?

	15-06-2003 20:59									#3
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Depends on where the Japanese Legion moves. If it heads west toward Kyoto, we can't stop it from entering the city. If it fortifies on the Mountain, we can move our Legion and Archer west. The Archer should be safe on a Mountain and we can block the Legion from defending the city. The other Legion will take 4 turns to get to Kyoto, so we have an extra turn to manuver the first Legion for blocking. The Horse can reveal a couple more squares on its way to the designated spot without wasting any turns by avoiding the forest square (by moving west, then south).

	15-06-2003 21:02									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey Things have changed since the last poll, the original plan was for 6 units in the attack of Kyoto but it seems only 4 will be in place, we lost one Horsey to the barbs and it seems the president chose to use the chariot to continue exploring rather than move it into place for the attack.

I had conflicting instructions for attacking Kyoto and popping huts. The Chariot was the one that found Monarchy.

	15-06-2003 21:31									#5
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Add my voice to the clamour demanding war.

* Six Thousand Year Old Man joins the excited crowd in front of the Reichstag

	15-06-2003 23:04									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man * Six Thousand Year Old Man joins the excited crowd in front of the Reichstag

Hitler Germany refrence, in support of, Poltburo member... Traitor!

	16-06-2003 03:28									#7
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear , so we have an extra turn to manuver the first Legion for blocking.

The minister of war asks that the legion not be moved of its pathway as this would put it in harms way and severely damage the already weakened chances of success.

	16-06-2003 06:43									#8
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Since Kyoto doesn have any special defence bonus I'd say go for it

	16-06-2003 06:48									#9
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Though we know little about the Japanese, and little about what we are attacking, it still seems our best option, waiting with us nearby just gives them the opportunity to either build more units for defence or build more units for offense (and attack us in a pre-emtive strike)

Despite the change to the original plan, I think we need to attack at the first opportunity (when all units are in place).

	16-06-2003 10:30									#10
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Question is: If we attack can we hold on to what we take? A phyric (sorry about the spelling) victory is meaningless. We should attack when we have the momentum to follow through and totally obilterate the Japanese vermin.

Either that or throw bananas at them.

	16-06-2003 11:46									#11
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we have no idea how big the japanese are, if they prove large enough to halt our offensive, we'll at least have kyoto as a base to build a diplomat to establish an embassy with one of their nearby cities.

	16-06-2003 12:18									#12
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You and your diplomats, one would think you are the Minister of Foreign Affairs or something

	16-06-2003 18:33									#13
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Attack the city and shake the japanese up a little bit. They will likely want peace afterwards, (and probably will request audiences as soon as we are within reach of the city.) so we can demand tribute or trade some tech.

	16-06-2003 21:29									#14
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quote: Originally posted by atomant You and your diplomats, one would think you are the Minister of Foreign Affairs or something

	16-06-2003 21:40									#15
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Yes, just knock them of their feet...but watch out for the Legion...I just hope 4 units is enough...Kyoto beeing the Capital...what the heck...Kill, pillage,burn

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	16-06-2003 22:11									#16
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quote: Kill, pillage,burn

No use for distant cities suffering enormous corruption. Attack, and if the city dies, so be it.

	17-06-2003 02:47									#17
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Yes, they will couse more unhappyness then they are worth in trade or production.

	17-06-2003 09:05									#18
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While having Kyoto wiped off the map would not displease me, I would prefer if we were able to take the city and add it to our growing empire (and use it as a staging area to take whatever Japanese cities remain). As for the corruption and waste, I think that even if the city has high production and waste, as long as it is self sustaining, that it is a good addition to our empire, and will eventually be joined by other cities, bridging the gap.

	17-06-2003 18:20									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk While having Kyoto wiped off the map would not displease me, I would prefer if we were able to take the city and add it to our growing empire (and use it as a staging area to take whatever Japanese cities remain). As for the corruption and waste, I think that even if the city has high production and waste, as long as it is self sustaining, that it is a good addition to our empire, and will eventually be joined by other cities, bridging the gap.

I tend to agree. We won't be in Monarchy forever - so corruption won't always be (as big) a problem.

Also, IIRC we decided to limit the number of cities we built. Capturing cities is the only way to grow our empire once we hit the city limit.

	19-06-2003 16:06									#20
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The voting is obvious, the attack shall continue.

All power to our Mighty Army.

	20-06-2003 01:00									#21
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Best of luck to General Hydey and his mighty forces.