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Lord Nuclear is offline Lord Nuclear
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I have an idea for the C3DG. Well I position for it anyway. In the Canadian Government there is a position higher then the Prime Minister/President. That position being called the Governer General. He/she would represent the Queen or King of England. But the person would be mostly ceremonial.


My Idea is to have a Governer General in the game. The person would give the ok to any of the plans made at the turn chats. So before a decision is made the Governer General has to agree. This would mean that the Governer General should be quite knowledgable. The Governer General can say no if they believe that it will fail. But that wouldnt be to common.


The way the Governer General is elected is by the Prime Minister/President choosing the person. But we could have the Prime Minister chooses a few people and all the ministers vote on the person. Then the Governer General could pick a assistant called a Lieutanant Governer.

So the Governer General Position wouldnt be that powerful and would only effect the game by saying yes or no to the plan. The Governor General would also be quite ceromonial in the DG. They would also present the plan in a neat fashion on the forums.

Thoughts?

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I nominate panag.

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Wow - quite a position.

NukeMaster - that is a great roleplaying idea, but I see some issues with it. In a Parliamentary Democracy like Canada, New Zealand and even Australia, the monarch (currently Queen Liz) is technically ruler of the country, and her representative for each country is the Governor General. Now the Governor General is symbolic, but he/she does actually have some power as you say, but very very limited. In the case of recent times, the only thing the GG has done apart from "officially" open Parliament and gift the Government to the winning political party(ies) is to call for a reelection in the case of a Governmental split. This has happened about 50 years ago in Australia, and caused no-stop problems.

For us, it would not be possible to have someone in every chat. It would not even be likely to have one of two people in every chat. Secondly, we have decided upon being a Democracy game, pure and simple. We poll on as much as we can in the most Drmocratic way we can - we need a leader as we can't poll on everything, and those plans that are cooked up in the chat are carried out with a quickpoll approval of those in the chat - the next best thing to a full poll. Thirdly, I think this is really pushing towards the sort of total control/elitist idea that we don't want to go towards in the DG. There have been lots of Presidents, and that is the highest office you can attain here - it seems to me to act as a humbling factor. If I thought I was hot stuff, I would look around and realise that I'm not better than everyone else - there are lots about here who have had the top job before, and lots who will in the future.

I think it's important we stick to our Democratic ideals here, as much as they seem to work. We are all supposed to be considered equals here, judged only on what we do, not what title we hold. If we had a GG, that would change. The PtW team games and, in a way the ISDG game have some elements of Governor-Generalship, and they can work well, bt they are born of either necessity or of roleplay. We have chosen a different path, and I think we should try to stick to this for this game.

This isn't attempting to shoot you down, NukeMaster, I can see your enthusiasm for the game. I just think that this idea, whilst looking great for roleplay, both cannot work easily and might cause us to go in a way I don't think the game was designed for. Perhaps I am alone in this, and if you get some positive replies here you might want to poll on it - that's what a Democracy is for. Maybe for the next game we would decide this is a good idea, but, for me, I would like to stay as we are.

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Well I will se what responses I get. I will try to think of a way for it to be more democratic. GhengisFarb do you like the idea then?

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hi ,

, why not , ......

actually this would be great thing , ( nothing to do with GF's post btw )

the yes / no to the plan would be good , a second look could be given to it and seen what's really in the best intrest of the game , read people

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hi ,

, why not , ......

actually this would be great thinghave a nice day


NO

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NO


hi ,

editing a bit , ....

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NO


hi ,

editing a bit , ....

the least you can do is post as to why you say " no " , ......

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Some people cant even explain themselves *sigh*

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