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Sn00py is offline Sn00py
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Seen the Futuristic Submarine named Goliath? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

http://www.stevealten.com/goliath_project.htm
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http://www.prweb.com/releases/2003/6/prweb67290.php - for news on it

what do you think?

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Got spare money?

Stingray!

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"Steve Alten?s high-tech thriller, GOLIATH, is about a futuristic nuclear stealth submarine larger than the length of a football field, the shape of a stingray and virtually undetectable."

It's not actually being made, so I don't really care. The guy looks like a hack.

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I think it is a stupid idea for a book.

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[QUOTE] Originally posted by monolith94
It's not actually being made, so I don't really care. [QUOTE]

Ditto.

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It's a stupid idea for a sub, period.

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That thing has to make a racket when it's underwater.

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STUPID

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why the hell does it need such big wings?!


....aaaah, to make it look like a stingray....

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Lets take a stealth bomber and add a tail!

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Alten has obviously played CTP2 too many times and thinks he can build a Kraken for real.

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I don't think it's a stupid idea at all. Unconventional, yes.

I don't see much future building full sizes subs like that - but given the maneuver ability of rays and mantas, I can see potential for small unmanned subs like that in exploration and salvage.

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I'll take it down with my trusty slingshot!

Well in Civ I could.

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Forget the picture, it's the book that sounds stupid.

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The books sounds even more stupid.

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"Steve Alten?s high-tech thriller, GOLIATH, is about a futuristic nuclear stealth submarine larger than the length of a football field, the shape of a stingray and virtually undetectable."


Someone should let Mr. Alten know that a football field is 900 feet long. His little sub is only 610 feet long.

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I thought a football field was 360 feet if you counted the endzones or goal to goal if you meant soccer(football). Isn't it 120 yards?

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I thought a football field was 360 feet if you counted the endzones or goal to goal if you meant soccer(football). Isn't it 120 yards?


This is what I get for being a liberal arts major. I knew they were 100 yards, I knew it was 3 feet in a yard, and yet here I come up with 900 feet. And I wonder why my checkbook never seems to balance.

btw, don't we have subs now longer than 610 feet?

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Current boomers are pretty damn long as it is.

That sub is a complete fantasy. Rays and skates, by and large, are bottom critters (manat rays being the exception). While they are highly manuevarable, a ray shaped sub would not be, as it would lack the ray's elastic body. There is a reason why most man-made things that move through the water are shaped like sharks and whales.

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wow, this sounds worse than seaquest dsv...

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