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I agree with some of the posters...... What if our only way to ensure we arent nuked is to threaten to nuke Mecc and Medina?
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Shadowstrike
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The Glorious Land of Canada
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Revenge aside, nuking Mecca, Medina or other holy Islamic ciites is just about the worst thing the United States could do. This would play into the terrorists' hands - the emtire Muslim world would be in arms against the States, Europe would be shocked by an act of such barbarism, and US rivals may see this as the chance to paint the name of the US as black as ever. Ultimate the US could come out on top, if you don't mind a few nuclear winters, massive destruction to the US mainland, possible extinction of humanity, etc.
Should such an event happen, however, the best action the US can take is to take out the radical Islamists. The moderates are more likely to see that continuing such senseless destruction would bring the proverbal temple down on their heads, and would most likely provide support for US efforts to get rid of Al Qaeda. Furthermore, such an event also serves as a further deterant against the use of nuclear weapons (remember the victims of New York/Washington), and provides a cassus bellum against "rouge" states.
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GO GO GO!
Mar 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Shadowstrike
Revenge aside, nuking Mecca, Medina or other holy Islamic ciites is just about the worst thing the United States could do. This would play into the terrorists' hands - the emtire Muslim world would be in arms against the States, Europe would be shocked by an act of such barbarism, and US rivals may see this as the chance to paint the name of the US as black as ever. Ultimate the US could come out on top, if you don't mind a few nuclear winters, massive destruction to the US mainland, possible extinction of humanity, etc. |
nah, a few nukes wouldn't do that much damage... hundreds of nuclear tests have occured and not caused drastic climate changes. Europe would probably be with us if NY gets nuked. Of course the US would come out on top... the entire Muslim world can't hit us with rocks across the ocean, and Ashcroft and his Gestapo would take care of the rest. The domestic security situation would be really tight, but hey, if there are terrorists who have nukes in the US, and they use one, I won't mind so much if Arabs get rounded up. It sounds terrible, I know, but if you can think of a better way to seperate the terrorists from the good people, I'm all ears.
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I might point out that a nuclear attack on either city would murder tens of thousabds of foreigners, European, Asian, African, South American, North American and Oceanic, so EVERY country on earth would have a stake in the reprisals against the perpetrators on a scale not dreamt of after 911. You might conceivably wind up with all the major nuclear powers asking to be allowed to participate in the counter-attack. IIRC it's fairly common for a number of nations to send high ranking members of their governments to the President's inaguration, so an attack at that time would really infuriate any number of nations.
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Lord Merciless
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ALL big cities are liberal.
I wouldn't mind if they set off a big bomb 5 miles north of the White House.
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Monk
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I don't think we're in Brønshøj anymore
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I don't think you guys would have nuked the Vatican because of the IRA.
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Lord Merciless
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I don't think you guys would have nuked the Vatican because of the IRA. |
You are right. I'm also against nuking Medina and Mecca. But we should kill every Wahhabist clerics there.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
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2) The U.S. would have no choice but to unilaterally declare that only France, Britain, Russia, China and the U.S. could possess nuclear arsenals. We would declare any other States with nuclear weapons capablilities to be rogue states. |
*cough*
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
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making mecca glow in the dark won't help our cause too much (bunch more people who before didn't hate us would ), but it would certainly send a strong, clear message: don't fvck with us.
if that nuke did go off, anywhere in the states... i'd be in favor of holding off a bit, until we knew to a good degree who did it, and where it came from: so if the terrorist cell was from the philippines and not syria, we wouldn't be hitting the wrong people. after finding out who did it, quietly inform the government where they are (if they are on our side--like the government of the philippines, pakistan, or indonesia, for example) and demand that they be eliminated/handed over to us authorities, on pain of retaliation.
if they didn't comply, drop a few on suspected terrorist locations.
if they did, try the terrorists, and imprison them. don't execute them with old sparky or the injection... just have, somehow, one of those irradiated beds show up in their cells.
if it wasn't a government we liked, well, just drop it on their suspected locations.
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Narz
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Seeker of Wisdom
Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Shadowstrike
Revenge aside, nuking Mecca, Medina or other holy Islamic ciites is just about the worst thing the United States could do. This would play into the terrorists' hands - the emtire Muslim world would be in arms against the States, Europe would be shocked by an act of such barbarism, and US rivals may see this as the chance to paint the name of the US as black as ever. Ultimate the US could come out on top, if you don't mind a few nuclear winters, massive destruction to the US mainland, possible extinction of humanity, etc.
Should such an event happen, however, the best action the US can take is to take out the radical Islamists. The moderates are more likely to see that continuing such senseless destruction would bring the proverbal temple down on their heads, and would most likely provide support for US efforts to get rid of Al Qaeda. Furthermore, such an event also serves as a further deterant against the use of nuclear weapons (remember the victims of New York/Washington), and provides a cassus bellum against "rouge" states. |
I agree. I can't believe so many people actually think that threatening to bomb Mecca is a good idea. Just the threat alone will likely spark much hate, violence and death on both sides.
If a fundamentalist Christian kid beat up your son would you go blow up his church?
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