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Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2003Jun12.html

"Uniforms will monitor soldiers' hearts, and helmets will be outfitted with video and other high-tech gear. The contract could be worth $3 billion."





$30,000 a pop, hmmm.....

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That money should be spent on schools

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This uniform looks frightningly like all kinds of futuristic unforims of quasi-police militias from futuristic movies..

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quote:
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That money should be spent on schools


I'd rather have a payraise.

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I just don't think it is economically feasible to use this on regular troops. Special forces are another matter of course.

In the future, the war will be faught with unmanned robots. Mechwarriors if you will

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Well than we will finally be able to successfully invade china and educate all those commies

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I think the real question is: Can I watch porn with it?

I haven't formed opinion about this uniform yet. First I laughed, then I cried, but it has some good features. This certainly does not go good with regular ground troopers, maybe there are some functions for it in other groups. Worth of all that money? Hell no.

The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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This uniform looks frightningly like all kinds of futuristic unforims of quasi-police militias from futuristic movies..


I was thinking Aliens, myself...


Well, the new advanced combat rifle (you know, the one with programable "smart bullets") is supposed to be in the same price range, so I don't see this as completely unrealistic.

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In the future, the war will be faught with unmanned robots. Mechwarriors if you will

Cpuldn't we change that to;
In the future there will be no more wars...

That way, you get the money for schools and Lonestar can have his payrise.

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also I'd like to see some hot chicks in this uniform to make an informed decision.

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Cpuldn't we change that to;
In the future there will be no more wars...


I hope not, then I'd be outta a job.

Dissident, Mechs are the stupidest ideas for combat, ever.

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And to think I was happy when I found out the Army was thinking about redesiging the BDU's.


These uniforms won't be used for the regular grunt. Like Lonestar said, just give me a raise and I'll be happy...

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OMG thats the new cartridge-less rifle from Heckler & koch!

w00t w00t!

EDIT: Actually it isnt but it looks even spiffier!

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I just don't think it is economically feasible to use this on regular troops. Special forces are another matter of course.

In the future, the war will be faught with unmanned robots. Mechwarriors if you will


1.It always seems that how reg troops are equipped does seem to matter... BIG time in military history.

2. I'd rather have few crying mothers over national debt. I dunno preferring few casualty over leaving kids on the streets cause they have no education makes me a sick bastard or not, but thats just me.



This just makes it more dissapointing that I aint gonna join the army. I came to my senses btw. I prolly will make more money in 3 years than any amt of college funds army will give me by rotting it away.. so..

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These uniforms won't be used for the regular grunt.

Actually it is... Not right away, but at least thats the plan.
Come to think of it its an old news, but I have never seen an actual photo of how it was going to look (its sooooo Aliens!!! )

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Dissident, Mechs are the stupidest ideas for combat, ever.
Do you mean to say that an Atlas bearing down on the enemy wouldn't be that useful?

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I second Lonestars statement.

Not only is it pointlessly expensive, theres very Few instances where walking is more efficient/effective than other methods of transporting.

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Do you mean to say that an Atlas bearing down on the enemy wouldn't be that useful?


A Tank could take it out. It would have better armor, speed, and a more powerful main gun.

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also I'd like to see some hot chicks in this uniform to make an informed decision.


ur quote reminds me of this guy's avatar from another forum

(although Id give her about 6/10 personally.. )

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A Tank could take it out. It would have better armor, speed, and a more powerful main gun.


forget all that advantages.

You only need it to be cheaper to produce to make it SOOO much more superior.

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well mechs are worthless because of the fact they have to walk.

I didn't mean to use robots exactly like that. I would think they would be too unstable for use in real life.

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It has nothing to do with walking, and everything to do with being a ridiculously large target with necessarily thin armor at points that are both critical and exposed (i.e., hip actuators, etc.).

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and that has to deal with walking

If it wasn't walking it would be lower and have a much smaller profile.

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walking doesnt have to necessarily make an object alot taller than you imagine it to be.

Are you imagining a humanoid robot? You can simply have 2 steel pods w hydrolaulics simulating "walking" (aka falling + pushing ground) then it will resolve all those problems.

Still inefficient comapred to wheels. and why would you want a wobbling tank over sturdy tank that rolls on the ground?

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A Tank could take it out. It would have better armor, speed, and a more powerful main gun.


Nah, tanks suck compared to Mechs.

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quote:
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This uniform looks frightningly like all kinds of futuristic unforims of quasi-police militias from futuristic movies..



Yeah it does...

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Still inefficient comapred to wheels. and why would you want a wobbling tank over sturdy tank that rolls on the ground?
Because they look damn cool!

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Well I'm convinced.

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They mentioned body armor

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House Steiner fan, DD?

 
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