17-06-2003 06:07									#1
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Should we have one? Yes or no?

	17-06-2003 07:14									#2
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This is what it would do.

I have an idea for the C3DG. Well I position for it anyway. In the Canadian Government there is a position higher then the Prime Minister/President. That position being called the Governer General. He/she would represent the Queen or King of England. But the person would be mostly ceremonial.


My Idea is to have a Governer General in the game. The person would give the ok to any of the plans made at the turn chats. So before a decision is made the Governer General has to agree. This would mean that the Governer General should be quite knowledgable. The Governer General can say no if they believe that it will fail. But that wouldnt be to common.


The way the Governer General is elected is by the Prime Minister/President choosing the person. But we could have the Prime Minister chooses a few people and all the ministers vote on the person. Then the Governer General could pick a assistant called a Lieutanant Governer.

So the Governer General Position wouldnt be that powerful and would only effect the game by saying yes or no to the plan. The Governor General would also be quite ceromonial in the DG. They would also present the plan in a neat fashion on the forums.

Also the Governor General could be in control of the newspaper. And post polls about the current government. Approval Rating and how happy they are about the current plans ect.

	17-06-2003 07:42									#3
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Can you post if your voting. Because if you dont this poll wont count.

	17-06-2003 17:44									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master Can you post if your voting. Because if you dont this poll wont count.

This poll don't count.

	17-06-2003 17:59									#5
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quote: Originally posted by theViking This poll don't count.

hi ,

read what he means , ....

yes we should

and the no voters could at least post as to why they dont like it , ....

have a great day

	17-06-2003 19:47									#6
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Thank you Panag At least you care!

	17-06-2003 20:59									#7
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I am voting no.

As much as I would like to see Panag in this position, I do not feel it would be a very good thing for the Demo Game

We have a streamlined process in place that is functioning fine. If it's not broke don't fix it. I see this as adding another step/level and that would only complicate matters as well as the problem of actually finding individuals with the time to carry this out each month.

	17-06-2003 21:41									#8
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx I am voting no. As much as I would like to see Panag in this position, I do not feel it would be a very good thing for the Demo Game We have a streamlined process in place that is functioning fine. If it's not broke don't fix it. I see this as adding another step/level and that would only complicate matters as well as the problem of actually finding individuals with the time to carry this out each month.

Ditto.

	18-06-2003 09:21									#9
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I'm fairly new to the C3DG, but I agree with UnOrthOdOx that it would just add one more level. From what I've seen so far, it's working well as it is. Right now we give our suggestions and the ministers go and do their thing in the chats. This is a purely hypothetical situation, but say the governor general had a strategy he/she wanted to use that was in conflict with what everyone else wanted to do so he vetoes their strategy for his own. That's not in the democracy game spirit.

	18-06-2003 09:38									#10
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Who ever said a Governor General could Veto a decision. But any who I am trying to make a senate again.

	18-06-2003 09:55									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master My Idea is to have a Governer General in the game. The person would give the ok to any of the plans made at the turn chats. So before a decision is made the Governer General has to agree. This would mean that the Governer General should be quite knowledgable. The Governer General can say no if they believe that it will fail. But that wouldnt be to common.

That's the quote that led me to think he'd have veto power. It was just a hypothetical "what-if" anyway.

	18-06-2003 09:58									#12
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See it would be more ceremonial. Just nevermind. Can a mod delete the thread?

	18-06-2003 22:29									#13
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Sorry Nuclear Master, I wasn't trying to argue with you. I was just giving my opinion and an example of something that "could" happen. I don't actually think it would happen that one person would overrule all the rest...not here on 'Poly, most everyone is nice . On another thread when I was completely misunderstanding something Panag said he was still extremely nice about it (Thanks Panag. ) That's the kind of people that are here, which is why I like these forums.

	19-06-2003 01:56									#14
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No, I am not going to delete this thread. Discussions like this are good for generating ideas and spuring further growth and evolution of our democracy.

Although I think this particular idea is not a good one relative to our current situation, it is always good to look at new ways of doing things, which is really one of the important things this thread does.

Keep the good ideas flowing.

	19-06-2003 03:32									#15
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing No, I am not going to delete this thread. Discussions like this are good for generating ideas and spuring further growth and evolution of our democracy. Although I think this particular idea is not a good one relative to our current situation, it is always good to look at new ways of doing things, which is really one of the important things this thread does. Keep the good ideas flowing.

hi ,

little dictator , not wanting to delete a thread , ....

you are right , its ideas like this that have brought us forwerd and have developed us substancially

if you look back you shall see that "simulations" where considered months ago as cheating and a no talk about thing , today they are done and they are accepted , .....

the " senate " is sometimes missing , and it should be have a new wave true to it , .....

have a nice day

	19-06-2003 03:32									#16
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing No, I am not going to delete this thread. Discussions like this are good for generating ideas and spuring further growth and evolution of our democracy. Although I think this particular idea is not a good one relative to our current situation, it is always good to look at new ways of doing things, which is really one of the important things this thread does. Keep the good ideas flowing.

hi ,

little dictator , not wanting to delete a thread , ....

you are right , its ideas like this that have brought us forwerd and have developed us substancially

if you look back you shall see that "simulations" where considered months ago as cheating and a no talk about thing , today they are done and they are accepted , .....

the " senate " is sometimes missing , and it should be have a new wave true to it , .....

have a nice day

	19-06-2003 03:31									#17
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing No, I am not going to delete this thread. Discussions like this are good for generating ideas and spuring further growth and evolution of our democracy. Although I think this particular idea is not a good one relative to our current situation, it is always good to look at new ways of doing things, which is really one of the important things this thread does. Keep the good ideas flowing.

hi ,

little dictator , not wanting to delete a thread , ....

you are right , its ideas like this that have brought us forwerd and have developed us substancially

if you look back you shall see that "simulations" where considered months ago as cheating and a no talk about thing , today they are done and they are accepted , .....

the " senate " is sometimes missing , and it should be have a new wave true to it , .....

have a nice day

	19-06-2003 04:09									#18
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Panag I am trying to get the Senate back. Would you want to help me write a new constitution.

	19-06-2003 07:15									#19
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Haven't commented yet; I agree we don't need a GG. In a way, the Prez already serves as a checkpoint for orders, even if he doesn't actually have the power to cancel said orders.

But I agree we need the senate back; the lack of discussion and polling may eventually kill the game, IMO. I'm not really sure how to get it started again... perhaps we need to bring some lighter elements in as well; seemed like half of the senate's job in the post-industrial SPDG I was proposing slavery bills back and forth. (j/k; we did have some good game discussion.)

It starts with discussion, and that starts with polls. The only two polls I can recall are city placement and the Ottoman war. So, with that in mind, I'm off to start a war opinion poll...

	19-06-2003 07:26									#20
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So Kloreep would you want to help me write a new constitution?

	19-06-2003 07:41									#21
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Yes, definitely.

	19-06-2003 07:53									#22
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Ok! Lets talk about it in PM. Do you have a link to the old constitution?

	19-06-2003 10:37									#23
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Quick question since I'm still new to the Democracy games, but what was the job of the Senate? Thanks for your help.

	19-06-2003 11:53									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill Quick question since I'm still new to the Democracy games, but what was the job of the Senate? Thanks for your help.

hi ,

the senate are the people , all the people that participate

NM ; yes why not

have a nice day

	19-06-2003 18:29									#25
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Here is your link...http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=72122


Have fun.

	19-06-2003 19:23									#26
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Hehe. It's my birthday today. And Panag it's not the people....

	19-06-2003 19:26									#27
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Happy Birthday, Governor.

	19-06-2003 19:28									#28
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Thanks

	21-06-2003 20:38									#29
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx Here is your link...http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=72122 Have fun.

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	21-06-2003 20:40									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master Hehe. It's my birthday today. And Panag it's not the people....

hi ,

happy B-day

yes its the people , well in the demo games at least , .....

aldo this deserves an entire new discussion about who and what is the senate , .....

have a nice day