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quote: Why has Presidential candidate George W. Bush been able to raise uncounted tens of millions of dollars? It can't be because of his positions on the issues; he has scrupulously avoided taking many. It can't be because of his knowledge of world events; he thinks being asked such questions is a trick." (He will embarrassingly lie, saying that he knows the answer to a question, and half a sentence later admit that he doesn't.)
No, George "I'm No Longer Drunk" Bush's support is because the Bush family fortune is old, and it's big, and comes from a century old alliance with the most powerful interests on Wall Street and in industry. Worse, part of Dub-a-Ya's money comes from grandfather Prescott Bush's financial alliance with the Nazis.
On October 20, 1942, the US Alien Property Custodian, under the "Trading With the Enemy Act," seized the shares of the Union Banking Corporation (UBC), of which Prescott Bush was a director and shareholder. The largest shareholder was E. Roland Harriman. (Bush was also the managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman, a leading Wall Street investment firm.)
The UBC was established to send American capital to Germany to finance the reorganization of its industry under the Nazis. Their leading German partner was the notorious Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, who wrote a book admitting much of this called "I Paid Hitler."
Among the companies financed was the Silesian-American Corporation, which was also managed by Prescott Bush, and by his father-in-law George Herbert Walker, who supplied Dub-a-Ya with his name. The company was vital in supplying coal to the Nazi war industry. It too was seized as a Nazi-front on November 17, 1942. The largest company Bush's UBC helped finance was the German Steel Trust, responsible for between one-third and one-half of Nazi iron and explosives.
Prescott Bush was also a director of the Harriman Fifteen Corporation, (this one owned largely by Roland's brother, Averell Harriman), which owned about a third of the Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation, the rest owned by Friedrich Flick, (a member of Himmler's "Circle of Friends" who donated to the S.S.).
Republican Presidential candidate Bush's great-grandfather, Bert Walker, helped organize the Harriman investment in the Hamburg-America Line of ships, of which grandfather Prescott became a director. It was seized on August 28, 1942 because it was used to give free passage to Nazi propaganda and propagandists, and had earlier shipped guns to the Nazi's private armies to assist their takeover of Germany.
Further examples would be more tedious than shocking. But, given these evil financial dealings, how did Prescott later become a Republican Senator, and George H.W. become President? Well,the two leading attorneys for these Bush-Harriman-Nazi deals were John Foster Dulles, later Secretary of State under Eisenhower, and Allen Dulles, future head of the CIA.
Prescott's father, Samuel P. Bush, owned Buckeye Steel Castings Co. which made parts for the Harriman brothers' father's (E.H. Harriman) railroads. Harriman's financing for the railroads came largely from William Rockefeller. These shipped the oil of his brother John D. Rockefeller, the founder of Standard Oil. (This was the origin of the two Georges' involvement in the oil business.)
Samuel Bush became a leader in President Woodrow Wilson's "War Socialism" as director of small armaments and ammunition on the War Industries Board (which set up coercive price-fixing cartels over American industry during World War I). There, Bush assisted Percy Rockefeller (son of William) in his takeover of small arms manufacturers.
The elder George Bush continued the family tradition of support for totalitarian governments by supporting the Communist Chinese in the UN, and by directly aiding its military as President.
Will the younger George Bush continue to support big government, or will he support free markets? His first political act was a tax increase to subsidize his baseball stadium. When libertarians and conservative Republicans were opposing the bailout of American banks that loaned money to the Mexican government, the Texas Governor supported it, because of his connections to those Wall Street Banks.
This is in keeping with the actual history of the Republican Party. It was founded in the 1850's explicitly as the party of high taxes to subsidize politically connected businesses, (then known as "internal improvements"). All Republican Presidents in the last fifty years have continued to increase the size of the government, and claims of support for free markets and lowered taxes are mere rhetorical cover. Texas Governor George Bush will continue that tradition.
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The Draheim Reportsm is a feature publication of The Dallas Libertarian Post | from http://www.lpdallas.org/features/draheim/dr991216.htm
other relevant links:
http://www.baltech.org/lederman/bush-nazi-11-14-00.html
http://www.americanfreedomnews.com/...bushsecrets.htm
http://www.syzygyjob.net/warissues/messages/31007.shtml
http://www.wayfareronline.com/news/.../nov02-031.html
if anyone is interested in reading about the history of Corporate America's links to Nazi Money, may I suggest these books:
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Facts and Fascism By George Seldes (Assisted by Helen Seldes) Sixth Edition In Fact, Inc., NY. 1943
Trading with the Enemy: An Expose of the Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949 By Charles Higham Delecorte Press, NY. 1983
Even the Gods Can't Change History: The Facts Speak for Themselves By George Seldes Lyle Stuart, Inc., NJ. 1976
Power, Inc.: Public and Private Rulers and How to Make Them Accountable By Morton Mintz & Jerry S. Cohen Viking Press, NY. 1976
The Plot to Seize the White House By Jules Archer Hawthorn Books, 1973
It's A Conspiracy!: The Shocking Truth About America's Favorite Conspiracy Theories By Michael Litchfield / The National Insecurity Council EarthWorks Press, CA. 1992
The Secret War Against The Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed The Jewish People By John Loftus and Mark Aarons St. Martin's Press, NY. 1994
One Thousand Americans By George Seldes BONI & GAER, NY. 1947
Spooks: The Haunting of America The Private Use of Secret Agents By Jim Hougan First Bantam Edition William Morrow and Co., NY. 1979
The Sovereign State of ITT By Anthony Sampson Stein and Day, NY. 1973
Democracy for the Few By Michael Parenti Fourth Edition St. Martin's Press, NY. 1983 |
I'm sure the dumb will fly their denial flag, but there's more than enough information and fact out there for people to educate themselves. Bush has hijacked Conservative ideals just as bin Laden has twisted Islam to suit his sick agenda. I also urge people to read:
"George Bush: The Unauthorised Biography," by Webster G. Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin
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quote: Originally posted by Sava
I don't care what Bush really believes, there's no way of proving anything with baseless assertions about what possible motives he may have. I prefer to judge the man by his actions. |
Agree 100%. Bush freed millions of Iraqis from a brutal dictatorship - you said motive doesn't count right?
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Simple question Sava: Are the Iraqis better of now? Yes or no?
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OK, this is weird. My second post has a timestamp earlier than my first one.
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quote: Originally posted by Sava
They were better off under Saddam pre-Gulf War I. I'd say they are the same now as they were pre-Gulf War 2. |
I see. So the 375,000 Iraqi casualties from the Iran/Iraq war plus the 100,000 dead Kurds plus Kuwait losses plus whatever the cost would have been when Saddam invaded Saudi Arabia - all of these pale in comparison to the evilness of the Americans? You are simply amazing, Sava.
Why is it so hard for you to admit that maybe, just maybe, GWB might have done a good thing for these people? Not for the right reasons, surely not, but overall a positive thing for their nation. Look, I don't like Dubya either. Didn't vote for him. Didn't support his stupid adventurous wars. But you seem to have some personal issue with the guy.
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American soldiers and Iraqi children are still dying. |
People are murdered everyday. Gangland killings in NYC and LA take a daily toll too but I don't hear you screaming "anarchy" over it.
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Mar 2001 time: 23:28
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quote: Sava,
I would disagree with you on Iran-Iraq war, I believe the soldiers probably didn't like it nor their families and the Kurds were gassed in 1988 prior to the first gulf and we would have probably left him alone except the wingnut went into Kuwait and if we hadn't acted, Saudi was probably next, they were no match for his army at the time. | Are you disagreeing with the fact that the US helped finance the war with Iran? Or the need to fight Iran? IIRC, Saddam started that war.
I should clarify something, when I say life was better pre-GulfWarI, I'm referring to Iraqi's, not the Kurds or any other oppressed ethnic group. Of course Saddam was bad, evil, etc... I'm glad he's dead. But I'm not giving Bush credit for "liberating" Iraq when Reagan and his daddy was the reason he survived so long in the first PLACE!
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future postings should be about the topic, and not Saddam or the Iran/Iraq war. Or the current War... there are enough threads for that. And I will not respond to further off-topic posts
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Mar 2001 time: 23:28
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quote: The Iran-Iraq War permanently altered the course of Iraqi history. It strained Iraqi political and social life, and led to severe economic dislocations. Viewed from a historical perspective, the outbreak of hostilities in 1980 was, in part, just another phase of the ancient Persian-Arab conflict that had been fueled by twentieth-century border disputes. Many observers, however, believe that Saddam Hussein's decision to invade Iran was a personal miscalculation based on ambition and a sense of vulnerability. Saddam Hussein, despite having made significant strides in forging an Iraqi nation-state, feared that Iran's new revolutionary leadership would threaten Iraq's delicate SunniShia balance and would exploit Iraq's geostrategic vulnerabilities--Iraq's minimal access to the Persian Gulf, for example. In this respect, Saddam Hussein's decision to invade Iran has historical precedent; the ancient rulers of Mesopotamia, fearing internal strife and foreign conquest, also engaged in frequent battles with the peoples of the highlands. |
Saddam invaded... FACT!
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/iran-iraq.htm
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