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Asher is offline Asher
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I bought a mere $30 of booze today and was not IDed.

So this means one of two things:

  • I look like I'm without a doubt over 18
  • The cashier thought I'd be impressed with her for not IDing me to the point of asking her out or something

    Seeing as I'm not totally vain (yet), it couldn't be the second one. And I wasn't aware I looked without-a-doubt over 18.

    So the problem is likely she's a lazyass who doesn't care.

    So, who gets in trouble if the cops knew?
    Would the cashier? The store's manager?

    What would the punishments be?

    Just an intrigue thread.

  • Soul Survivor is offline Soul Survivor
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    Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

    around here, usually the only punishment is a warning to the store's owners

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    The clerk will usually get a fine and fired.

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    reds4ever is offline reds4ever
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    quote:
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    So the problem is likely she's a lazyass who doesn't care.



    ..gets my vote..would you care if you had that type of job?

    Asher is offline Asher
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    I would, because I like to do my job right.

    Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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    In Aus, the cashier gets a fine, the person who owns the liquor license for the store also gets a fine. They can also revoke the license, meaning the store is shut down.

    Tuberski is offline Tuberski
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    same here SB.

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    Fve Crathva is offline Fve Crathva
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    Bastard. I got IDed when I went to see The Two Towers.

    SP

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    Frankychan is offline Frankychan
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    here, if it's a sting operation, the store will get slapped with a fine around $500 to $1000 depending on the record of the store. I've seen some news reports where the owner of the store gets arrested for repeat offenders.

    Crazy.

    Worthingtons is offline Worthingtons
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    Lax IDing can lead to greater sales.

    DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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    Asher's just mad someone thought he looked old.

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    You report them to ALCB. You tell ALCB that there is no way any reasonable person could assume you are 18, and you were not ID'd.

    If they see you, they will send real 16 year olds (who look old) into the store to purchase spirits. If the kids can walk out of the store with the beer, the owners are in for serious hurt. Fines and or shut down depending on history.

    Christ, bylaw officers are doing that to stores with cigarettes (different agencies though). I doubt the ALCB will tolerate alcohol to minors. Assuming of course that they have the staff to be able to afford to care.

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Asher
    I bought a mere $30 of booze today and was not IDed.

    So this means one of two things:
    [...]
  • The cashier thought I'd be impressed with her for not IDing me to the point of asking her out or something


  • Well, I honestly bet THAT was the case!

    Younger cashiers generally don't ID if you're alone, not nervous, look like a geek, and not bringing a park party themed purchase to the counter (single crappy 8 oz hard alcohol + case of Canadian/Kokanee, and/or 5 4-packs of peach coolers, and/or ANYTHING to do with 40oz malt liquor)

    Fine for the liquor stores can hit the $5000 mark, and repeated offences can result in loss of license

    FrustratedPoet is offline FrustratedPoet
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    quote:
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    I would, because I like to do my job right.


    I call BS.

    I've read your livejournal dude .... playing Solitaire and 3D Pinball all day?

    BUSTED!!!

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    Asher, you're not honestly upset - or considering reporting this?

    *End Is Forever* is offline *End Is Forever*
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    "Sting" operations are pure victimisation; more often than not they'll pick 17-year-olds who don't look a day under 21.

    *End Is Forever* is offline *End Is Forever*
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    Incidentally, Asher, what crime did the cashier commit? None!

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    can she be fined for not IDing someone who is over 18 because they look younger?

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    quote:
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    I call BS.

    I've read your livejournal dude .... playing Solitaire and 3D Pinball all day?

    BUSTED!!!

    Well....

    quote:
    Asher, you're not honestly upset - or considering reporting this?

    No, just offended.

    *End Is Forever* is offline *End Is Forever*
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    can she be fined for not IDing someone who is over 18 because they look younger?


    I don't see how you can fine someone for serving a person that is legally entitled to buy...

    MikeH is offline MikeH
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    When I was underage the guy at our local off-license once told us he couldn't serve us because he'd just got a police warning so we went next door. Was Ok again a couple of weeks later though.

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    When I was underage the guy at our local off-license once told us he couldn't serve us because he'd just got a police warning so we went next door. Was Ok again a couple of weeks later though.

    Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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    When you were underage did you also double post?

    Jon Miller

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    It just kept coming back with "cannot connect to server"

    Paul Hanson is offline Paul Hanson
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    Funny, most people get pissed off when they are IDed, not when they aren't.

    MikeH is offline MikeH
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    I've actually never been IDed.

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    This thread reminds me of Rich at the After Dark...

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    I'm always being ID'ed.

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