19-06-2003 16:18									#1
	3rd patch announcement: do you think this is serious??? Tired of ads?

Hi,

I bought this game following fantastic reviews and proud announcements like "RON goes gold on 20 May".
Now we are on 19 June and we are at the second set of corrections, with the third one just being announced!!!

I spend 50 euro for the game, I am spending additional money to download the patches (not really light if you are on a narrowband connection!!!).
take 8 mega per patch that makes 3 hours of connection on the REAL speed of 56kbit connection.
time and money lost.

I just think that this is not a serious way of doing things. Microsoft and BHG should publicly apologise for having sold a product which was everything but not ready to be sold!!!

Ciao

Bacca from Italy

	19-06-2003 17:45									#2
	Tired of ads?

The game was fine, the patches just fixed up the multiplayer side of things.

I think you should be thankful they have been so swift to fix these minor problems.

	19-06-2003 19:28									#3
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AH AH AH AH the game is fine?????????????

This game is a totaly bug game!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My pc go in crash only with this game:
i have C&c:Generals, CIV III, Age of Mitology, Vietcong, etc...
all these game works perfectly with the details set to max but RON nothing to do after 5 sec to 10 minutes with single and CTW go in crash

i buy this game on 28/5 and i don't play any game !!!!!!!!

AMD athlon xp 2100
512mb 333 ddr
Creative GF4 ti4400 128mb
Creative sound blaster live 5.1
dx 9.0a
SO: XP home
all the drivers are update

patch 1 nothing to resolve
patch 2 nothing to resolve
patch 3 ??????????????????????????????? I HOPE

	20-06-2003 04:20									#4
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Get a new driver for your SB Live card - that is what is causing the game to crash.

Last edited by Skanky Burns on 20-06-2003 at 06:19

	20-06-2003 10:51									#5
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Skanky your suggestion is for me?
I have all the lsta new drivers: for graphic cards, sounds cards, mouse, keyboard...i update all but nothig to do



I Repeat: I have this problem only with RON

	20-06-2003 11:14									#6
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Yes. I turned sound off completely and it worked... until the next time I restarted. Still working on getting mine actually running.

	20-06-2003 15:05									#7
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i try this suggest but nothing to do...after 5/6 minutes the pc go in crash

	20-06-2003 17:26									#8
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Same thing !
Crash only with RON ! I have C&C general, AOM, WC3, B1942, Toca Race Drivers etc.... No problem only with RON ! I think buy a game 50€ for this its very very bad ! Next time when i want a game i try it before !
Support tech is bad and dont know something ( for us no problem ).... , i think they dont have internet to see all the problems
RON WC3

	21-06-2003 08:11									#9
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I did try before I bought. The demo ran fine on my computer. The full version, alas, kills my comp.

	21-06-2003 12:43									#10
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I bought the game for $50 today and it has well and truly fuctup my computer. I had to rip out the beating bloody heart of RON from my hard drive, and then tear out the .dlls one by one like agonizing bare nerve endings, pulsing and festering in the cold, cold air.

Then I had to reinstall an older version of DirectX from a very old game and voila! My older games still work, and RON goes back to the shop for a refund with nary a backwards glance.

I remember slamming Civ3 for the steaming crock of odure that it was. But RON breaks all my previous records for short-term patience loss. It's very rare that a game not only fails to let me play it, but takes a dump on the rest of my system while it's at it. And all within half an hour of purchase!

I don't care how good the game is. There are some things about which I have absolutely no sense of humor whatsoever, and fucking up my laptop system is way up on the list.

I am very angry with Microsoft and BHG.

	22-06-2003 07:16									#11
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wow. really does seem like the game has two modes of play:

good/rocksteady/smooth

and

not at all.

maybe the shaders and the dx9 requirement wasn't such a good idea after all?

	22-06-2003 16:34									#12
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Tassadar5000 :
DL ? what is it ?

	22-06-2003 19:25									#13
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DL == double login. it usually means that the poster things that you, the user, are an alternate handle for a regular poster who can't be arsed/is too cowardly to post his thoughts under his own handle, or is using that handle to post deliberately trollish thoughts.

it's usually accompanied by the dl dance.

	23-06-2003 02:51									#14
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I agree with Bacca and Magni. Rise of Nations plainly sucks! Now i mean not the gameplay, its excellent, the graphics, which are fair enough (even though they are pretty sucky on my computer, which is brand new and totally updated) I mean the speed, which is audaciously slow, almost everything makes the game crash, and it screws up my computer! Worst of all, now, i cant download the patch! i HAVE NEVER had so many problems with a game! Even Age of Mythology ran MUCh MUCH better than this! And it isnt my computer's fault, because a have a billion other games and they work just perfectly! And by the way the game's producers definetly rushed the programmers, or so it seems, because the game is totally raw, and besides it was supposed to go gold in november 2003! It is as if i am playing a beta, the game is totally bugged, and undone.

	23-06-2003 04:13									#15
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At least it runs on your system...

	23-06-2003 06:57									#16
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it appears that bhg's game may have suffered from marketing incorrectly listing the minimum system requirements.

how many users who can't run it have a dx9 compatible card?
how many users have a video card that has more than 16mb video ram? perhaps having a minimum of 32mb of video ram is better?

then other things seem to be less than stellar programming-- creative and sound blaster are industry standards. even if the drivers are old, it oughtn't lead to such a dramatic slowdown.

ah, well.

	23-06-2003 14:56									#17
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what makes me really mad, are the Hardware specs, on the cover, sounded great for a laptop game, that does not need a fancy GPU, well here i am €50 poorer, and searching in my law book for the definition of fraud...

	23-06-2003 18:51									#18
	Suffering from ads?

Specs have nothing to do with it. Some people have only the bare requirements to play it and it still runs, albeit slowly. Others, such as myself, have way over the recommended specs - yet the game continually crashes the system.

While the game is fun, that fact is useless to me if I can't even play for more than 15 seconds (literally) at a time.

	23-06-2003 21:47									#19
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I run it on my laptop (1.2 GHz pentium 3 mobility, crappy ATI radeon m6 mobility) and it runs well (start around 20 fps, final huge battles around 7 fps, slow but still playable).

	24-06-2003 11:26									#20
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ron runs fine on my pc with the exception of a few corrupt save games. only problem is the slow frame rate but then it is most probably due to my very old 500mhz PIII more than anything else

	24-06-2003 15:10									#21
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hi,

my personal opinion is... it's your graphics cards. the game works great on my NVIDA video card. my friend does not have an NVIDA video card and the game gives him trouble sometimes.

that is one reason why i got an NVIDA video card... most games are build with them in mind.

dutcheese

	24-06-2003 16:16									#22
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No dutcheese, i have a creative GF4 ti4400 with 128mb and the new drivers 44.03!!!!

I haven't problem with other game...so is RON the problem.

	24-06-2003 21:20									#23
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[edited for a mistake in the post]

	28-06-2003 04:10									#24
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It has nothing to do with ATI, i have a Radeon 9700 and it works great. Never had a problem.

	01-07-2003 20:14									#25
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quote: Originally posted by WoodenTaco It has nothing to do with ATI, i have a Radeon 9700 and it works great. Never had a problem.

same for me... works like a charm

	01-07-2003 20:35									#26
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I have the same shitty problems (see my topic)!
Damn, I really hope that BHG will come with a patch which fixes these problems soon! It's really starting to get on my nerves!

UPDATE: I changed soundcard drivers and it didn't help a thing!!

Last edited by Eyradir on 01-07-2003 at 21:36

	02-07-2003 03:22									#27
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I changed soundcards and it still didn't help.
The problem is definately RoN's, and the problem (at least in my and a few other peoples case) is occurs with those who have a GeForce 4.

	02-07-2003 03:41									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns I changed soundcards and it still didn't help. The problem is definately RoN's, and the problem (at least in my and a few other peoples case) is occurs with those who have a GeForce 4.

I have a GeForce 4 ... that makes sense. Doh! BHG, hurry up PLEASE!

	02-07-2003 10:14									#29
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I have a GeForce 4 ti4600, runs perfectly.

	02-07-2003 11:33									#30
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What is your full system stats Nacht?

For comparison, I have:
CPU: Athlon 1GHz
Memory: 512Mb
Mobo: Asus A7V kt133
Sound: Soundblaster Live
Graphics: GeForce 4 Ti 4600
Driver: 40.72 (ms signed)

and it keeps crashing.