19-06-2003 19:06									#1
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When I watched Matrix 2 for the second time, I realised, that bit at the very very beginning, where the title of the movie shows, the background is flying through a maze of something and it looks exactly like Zion.

But then, it could just be the insides of that clock. But I do know that the W Bro's are tricky ppl.

	19-06-2003 19:08									#2
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what great proof. I hated the movie. what was all that speech an dancing bullshit in the beginning? why does morpherus speak to those people like he's ben gurion speaking to the jews of israel?

and why on earth did animatrix suck in so many instances?

	19-06-2003 19:16									#3
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You are a lovable, optimistic and caring person Ecthelion. *HUGS*

	19-06-2003 19:17									#4
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what? is there something wrong when I don't like the movie?

the first was better.

and yes, I despise the choice of name for humanity's stronghold.

	19-06-2003 19:17									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion and why on earth did animatrix suck in so many instances?

because it's exactly like the movies - all style and very little content.

It sure is pretty damn stylish, though. I want some of Morpheus' sunglasses.

	19-06-2003 19:26									#6
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the animatrix was awesome.

	19-06-2003 19:30									#7
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Some of them were, yes.

Final Flight of the Osiris was some really beautiful CG.

The one with the sprinter was cool, as was the black and white detective thing.

The Second Renaissance ones were just more silly Matrix "filosofy" that didn't make any sense, however. I didn't think much of The Kid either.

	19-06-2003 19:33									#8
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I loved the 2nd renaissance.

	19-06-2003 19:35									#9
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I didn't like any of the animatrix (especially not the last and the detective one) BUT the ghost house one

	19-06-2003 19:38									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion and yes, I despise the choice of name for humanity's stronghold.

I suppose you would prefer Fatherland or would Reich be better.


Reloaded did suck a little though. Without the special effects, it wasn't much of a movie.

	19-06-2003 19:44									#11
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Berlin would be cool

the one with the spooky house was real cool. blaming a matrix error for those effects is nice

	19-06-2003 19:46									#12
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Oh no, you're wrong, the story was mindboggling.

Who cares? I had my jaw on the floor for a couple of minutes during some of the fight scenes. I don't care about the story.

	19-06-2003 19:48									#13
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in matrix2 or in animatrix?

i did like the fight scenes, too, but as he said, the story... the story... aahhhhh...

	19-06-2003 22:43									#14
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You just couldn't follow what is going on, that is all

And no, the opening credits were just the inside of the clock starting from a tiny microscopic level kind of thing and showing it's code...see?

	19-06-2003 23:41									#15
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I loved both Reloaded and Animatrix. It's easy not to like either; there aren't many smart people left in the world.

	20-06-2003 02:52									#16
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dp (yes, a very long one, don't ask )

	20-06-2003 03:49									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion and yes, I despise the choice of name for humanity's stronghold.

Isn't it something to do with the fact that the humans are hoping one day to return to their origional homeland on the surface?

I thought it was a pretty good name

	20-06-2003 03:52									#18
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The surface has been blacked out anyway...

	20-06-2003 03:53									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber I suppose you would prefer Fatherland or would Reich be better. Reloaded did suck a little though. Without the special effects, it wasn't much of a movie.

Change Reloaded to "The Matrix" and you would still be right.

I don't care how good a movie looks, if the story and acting suck, then the movie is gonna suck.

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	20-06-2003 03:53									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Oh no, you're wrong, the story was mindboggling. Who cares? I had my jaw on the floor for a couple of minutes during some of the fight scenes. I don't care about the story.

I couldnt stand the fight cheoreography but the special effects were amazing.

	20-06-2003 04:43									#21
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Am I the only one who actually thought Reloaded was superior to the original?

	20-06-2003 04:55									#22
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I loved it but it's a transition movie. Not as much explaining as the first, not as much conclusion at the final. I still saw it five times, though.

	20-06-2003 05:48									#23
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I think the third will be absolutely great (or or complete crap, but hey im optimistic).

I think they could have gone more into the history of the Matrix, but again, that would be good fodder for the finale.

When will that be released btw?

	20-06-2003 06:09									#24
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In a couple of months.

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	20-06-2003 08:39									#25
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I agree with ya MonkSpider, I thought the second was better than the first.

My only gripe so far with any of the Matrix's (haven't seen Animatrix (sp?) ) is if they are gonna have a love affair with the character Trinity couldn't they have found a hotter/sexier actress to play Trinity that (insert actress's name here) whats-her-face.

	20-06-2003 08:43									#26
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Trinity is really pretty cute in a down to earth way, not everyone should look like Persephone.

	20-06-2003 13:48									#27
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The whole Matrix/Animatrix story is flawed at a very basic level. First: there is no way human bodies are the most effective energy source. And second: how are the humans getting their energy and why aren't the machines using the same means. Thus saving themselves the effort of building and maintaining matrices and fighting rebels.

Other than that the special FX are nice.

	20-06-2003 22:27									#28
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Yes
When I saw the first and Morpheus makes his well-know speech about how humans are not reduced to THIS (and takes out a small battery) I was so appaled...Evere one at told me about the great plot...
To someone who knows a bit about physics or biology, it is well-known 1.The human body is very poor in terms of efficiency, ranking something like 10%
2.They probably could get more energy-wise by burning whatever they feed the bodies than whatever the body produces...
Of course the premise still works, you just have to find another reason why they would have to keep all the bodies around and build a Matrix....

	20-06-2003 23:33									#29
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I think you just have to look past that one LulThyme...besides the human body is extremely efficient compared to an internal combustion engine, but on the other hand, we obtain all our energy indirectly from sunlight (photosynthesis -> ruminant mammals -> yummy steak -> us) so if the planet is blacked out then there would be nothing to feed us But don't get too caught up in things like that, remember, it is only fiction after all

	21-06-2003 02:03									#30
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yknow what I would do, I would nuke the most populated areas in the matrix, effectively killing 50%+ of the machines power.

Then just keep going from there