19-06-2003 23:57									#1
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Blitzkrieg


Hello everybody!
I've never been a real 'member' of the scenario league, but I would love to join you guys. My first contribution to the league, is
as seen above, a scenario which I'm currently working on - 'Blitzkrieg - Awakening the Giant'. It begins in June 1941 ( when ww2 really became ww2 ) with the invasion of Mother Russia.

It's ment to be a multiplayer scenario suitable for PBEM-ing. The scenario is still very undone, but I have a good draft that I'm posting here. It's not a very revolutionising scenario, it's merely a scenario made to, hopefully, amuse the players . It's gigamap and the civs are, in playing order:



Imperial Japan
Axis
Neutrals
USA
British Commonwealth
Nationalist China
Soviet Union

+ Sinkiang (Neutral China) (Barbaric civ)

I've spent over 6 moths up to now in more or less silence, so it's funny to finally show my work to someone else. I've made most of the graphics myself and that can take quite some time!! If you guys could be so kind to open the sav-game and give me some feedback, that would be extremely useful. Feel free to comment on anything: graphics, unit balanceing, city placements...Anything! Please give me the last push over the finishing line

Thanks for taking the time!


Kobra (aka Eivind IV at CivFan)

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	19-06-2003 23:58									#2
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Wow, it looks nice!!

	19-06-2003 23:59									#3
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But Sinkiang wasn't that big!! And it was neutral, in the whole war.

	20-06-2003 00:11									#4
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Also, Guam wasn't in Japanese hands yet.

	20-06-2003 00:22									#5
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You're completeley right about Guam. I didn't notice that one World record in responding to threads BTW. I don't think it took you more than 50 seconds. Congrats

And for some reason Sinkiang controlls Tibet

It's all taken care of! Thank you, FiGu! When will you Finish Front be ready?

Last edited by Eivind IV on 20-06-2003 at 00:27

	20-06-2003 00:26									#6
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oh and the marshall islands!! or was they in the japanese hands???

	20-06-2003 00:28									#7
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Oh, and it shows 4000BC. what year does the scenario begin.

Sry that i post so many messages.


But very nice Scenario !!!!

	20-06-2003 00:31									#8
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It begins in June 1941. As said in the opening, the scenario is far (well, not really that far ) from done. I still have to fix little details like that

And yes, they did control the Marshalls...

Type as many messages as you like, whatever turns you on, dude

	20-06-2003 00:36									#9
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Oh, and Finnish Front is... coming soon....

And a question, which map are you using? im maybe intrested to use it in my next scenario. ill begin working on it after Finnish Front is done.

Put one Infantry to guard Luleå, The axis can take it in one turn

and a suggestion : put rostov instead of Krasnodar, it was more important during the war.

	20-06-2003 03:18									#10
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Some minors details I like/dislike

1) I like both the map and terrain graphics

2) The Russian citiziens appear as the citiziens of the ancient age in Civ2

3) You combine English names of cities (example: Mexico City, Peking) with native names of cities (Moskva)

4) If I recall it correctly, the Yakolev-7 was used much more than the Yakolev-9, and was nearly as dreaded as the former... Have you though in changing Yakolev-9 with Yakolev-7?

5) Alll civs appear to be able to build German ingenuity

6) I don't like the red brackground - I've some problems while reading the text boxes

	20-06-2003 03:49									#11
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Looks groovy!

There can never be too many WW2 scenarios!

I'm sure this is going to be a great scenario once the beta tweaks are done!

Darn good work, Kobra!

	20-06-2003 15:05									#12
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Thanks for responding and thanks for all the nice words!

All notes are taken into account, yaroslav! I'll se what I can do with it!

Could I ask for another favour? Could a kind sole make the title.gif into a working title? The Painshop Pro 8 certainly won't cooperate with me

And to the kind sole: While you're at it, could you also transform the bmp's to gif's?

	20-06-2003 15:47									#13
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Urm, you've missplaced Melbourne: it should be at 233,197 Port Morseby should also be moved to 238,142

BTW, the population of Derby wasn't more then a few hundred in 1941: you may want to leave it out
(I'd use the city this frees up to either add Adelaide (which is where Melbourne currently is), or Johannesburg, South Africa.)

There was also a rather strategically important road running through central Australia from Adelaide to Darwin, you may want to add this as well (there was a rail road from Adelaide to Alice Springs as well)

	20-06-2003 15:51									#14
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Thanks pointing these things out, Case. I apreciate it!

BTW, does anyone know what Mexico City is called in Spanish? Do they only call it México?

	20-06-2003 17:47									#15
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Isn't it called Cuidad Mexico or something like that?

	20-06-2003 17:53									#16
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Some first impressions:
*The year is 4000 bc.
*It's immensely difficult to destroy even a non fortified artillery in a city. You might want to make it a little easier. Soviet infantery fell by the millions at the beginning of barbarossa. Now not even 4 veteran tanks can destroy an infantery in a city on Prince level.

	20-06-2003 18:47									#17
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If you play smart you start the invasion with airial bombardment to gain total air superiority. That was also crusial in the beginning fase of Barbarossa

	20-06-2003 19:04									#18
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But all those cities are guarded by fighters, and those fighters can also not be killed by bombers.
So the cities can not be taken.

	21-06-2003 01:26									#19
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quote: BTW, does anyone know what Mexico City is called in Spanish? Do they only call it México?

It´s called Mexico Distrito Federal. Similar to Washington D.C.
But you should use: Mexico D.F.

	21-06-2003 02:34									#20
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Again, thanks guys!

quote: But all those cities are guarded by fighters, and those fighters can also not be killed by bombers. So the cities can not be taken.

This is new to me. I have no problem taking Odessa, Lvov, Minsk and Kaunas in one turn, after heavy bomber assaults followed up by stuka attacks and then the panzer. I'll check into it.

The hitpoints and firepower stats are copied and based on kobayashi's ZWK scenario. I find them more realistic, as battle results isn't always about best equipment But I'll check into it...

quote: It´s called Mexico Distrito Federal. Similar to Washington D.C. But you should use: Mexico D.F.

Just to be even more native, could I name it México D.F.?

	21-06-2003 05:32									#21
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For those interested, here is the latest update. Some minor and some more or less major changes.

* The 'awful' red screen is removed in favour of a soothing light blue one
* Germany starts with some more panzers and bombers.
* German Capitol Ship in Tripoli moved to Taranto.
* Removed one Russian fighter in Odessa.
* Derby razed, Johannesburg created.
* Therefor, the Wellington formerly in Derby now moved to Darwin.
* Port Moresby moved to 238, 142.
* Renamed Melbourne to Adelaide
* Railway from Adelaide to Darwin created
* Brasilia removed. Cuiabá created instead
* Peking renamed to Beijing
* Mexico City renamed to México D.F.
* Citizen in some cities from all civs have been given more luxeries.
* German ingenuity removed completely
* Russia given one Capitol Ship in Arckangelsk + one sub + one landing craft
* Murmansk now has a sub
* Lhasa is now Neutral
* Unit shields are on place

All in all I have made several small changes, but I don't think any of you care, so I will spare you of the rest


And once again, thanks everyone for responding and beeing so kind. Please continue to do so, I could need all the help I could get.

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	21-06-2003 06:06									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Kobra * Renamed Melbourne to Adelaide

Melbourne was, and is, a much bigger and more important city then Adelaide.

quote: * Railway from Adelaide to Darwin created

The RR only made it half the way from Adelaide to Darwin - it stoped at Alice Springs. From there on everything had to be trucked to Darwin. The Alice Springs-Darwin rail link won't be complete untill Feburary 2004!

	21-06-2003 06:37									#23
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Oops, I seem to have misunderstood you...But it is changable

	21-06-2003 10:23									#24
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Keep up the good work! Pssst...you can get a 'civilized' geography lesson by looking at Case's 'Battle of Australia'.

quote: The Alice Springs-Darwin rail link won't be complete untill Feburary 2004!

Does this mean Alice Springs is going to have a croc problem (see Croc on Darwin bus)?

	21-06-2003 15:48									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Boco Does this mean Alice Springs is going to have a croc problem (see Croc on Darwin bus)?

Nah, the snakes will kill the crocs the minute they get off the train

...Failing that, the crocs will just end up lurking in the Todd River, which runs through the centre of Alice Spings:


Original caption: the mighty Todd in full flow

Woman fights off crocodile attack

	25-06-2003 19:14									#26
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Why americans on Sumatra?
Indonesia was Dutch with dutch colonial names

	25-06-2003 20:52									#27
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By the way of blitzkrieg....
I have a question. It seems that guy who invented the idea of it or at least one of the better German leaders during ww2 was Guderian, right? His surname sounds so Armenian... Does anybody know something more about him?

	25-06-2003 21:05									#28
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Maybe this is just an error in my Civ2 game, but it says that the year is 4000 BC when I play your scenario. Also, the aircraft have almost no movement. You need to have an aircraft carrier unit or those Japanese planes on the lone islands are useless.

	25-06-2003 22:58									#29
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quote: Originally posted by EmuGod Maybe this is just an error in my Civ2 game, but it says that the year is 4000 BC when I play your scenario. Also, the aircraft have almost no movement.

It's not an error, it's just one of the many little things I have to change.

quote: Originally posted by EmuGod MaybYou need to have an aircraft carrier unit or those Japanese planes on the lone islands are useless.

Notes taken.

Thanks! There has been no progress the last three days, as I am in Copenhagen now. I'll probably be home tomorrow or the day after. I just have to check the town some more. Cheep cheep beer

	26-06-2003 15:57									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson By the way of blitzkrieg.... I have a question. It seems that guy who invented the idea of it or at least one of the better German leaders during ww2 was Guderian, right? His surname sounds so Armenian... Does anybody know something more about him?

There's heaps of books available on Guderian - after Rommel he seems to be the most 'popular' German General.

...but I hate all Nazi Generals so I haven't read any of them and can't help you