20-06-2003 03:17									#1
	I started my second job today..... it COMPLETLEY changed my view of the world...... Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

I started my first two real jobs this week....... one is a part time computer maintenance guy at two macy's store(since I spend most of the time browsing online-the $12 an hour is great).

I need more money........ so I took a SECOND job....... im working for a furniture company......moving furniture all day for $7.00 an hour.....

It changed my view of the work-force and our country by allowing me to personally realize how much manual labor sucks.

I'm either a die hard capitalist(lazy ########! if I can do the work so can you! yey free market!) or a die hard socialist(im busting my ### while you fat cats do nothing and get paid 10x as much as me!) im not sure which though.

	20-06-2003 03:21									#2
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Tsk, tsk. The Commies will be sooo disappointed in you.

	20-06-2003 03:23									#3
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Tsk, tsk. The Commies will be sooo disappointed in you.

I said im not sure which-i'm one of the two.

	20-06-2003 03:24									#4
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If you think you should bust your ass to make some cash, so you can either (1) buy stuff or (2) save it, so you can become better educated and get a better job where you don't have to bust your ass, and posibly even start your own business so, if you do bust your ass, you're doing it (mostly) for yourself, you're a capitalist.

If you think everyone who can should bust their ass so you can support not only yourself, but everyone else who cannot bust their asses, then you're a socialist.

	20-06-2003 03:26									#5
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quote: Originally posted by ajbera If you think you should bust your ass to make some cash, so you can either (1) buy stuff or (2) save it, so you can become better educated and get a better job where you don't have to bust your ass, and posibly even start your own business so, if you do bust your ass, you're doing it (mostly) for yourself, you're a capitalist. If you think everyone who can should bust their ass so you can support not only yourself, but everyone else who cannot bust their asses, then you're a socialist.

I'm not sure which-I understand the difference Alot of both!

	20-06-2003 03:26									#6
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I didn't post a thread when I got a job that paid me 5€/hour, in which I had some working days starting at 12, ending at 12.

	20-06-2003 03:27									#7
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Work is hard if you're a grunt, and there is someone up there making lots of money off your back. It definitely seems like a very closed club up there too...stinks of oligarchy...so hence I veer to the left

	20-06-2003 03:28									#8
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Is this new view mean you are going to finally start touching yourself? Because seriously, I don't see your "new" view "complete" unless it changed you in that way too. I'm sure many others agree with me on this issue.

	20-06-2003 03:28									#9
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You can always quit if you don't like it.

	20-06-2003 03:29									#10
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I'd just be pleased if someone would employ me. So far, it has been determined that I not good enough to push trolleys around Morrisons car park or stand behind a till at WHSmith's gawking at people.

	20-06-2003 03:31									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Is this new view mean you are going to finally start touching yourself? Because seriously, I don't see your "new" view "complete" unless it changed you in that way too. I'm sure many others agree with me on this issue.

I've decided which way my view goes........

VIVA LA REVALUCION!!

Down with the capitalist pigs!


And no, I STILL will not masturbate.

	20-06-2003 03:33									#12
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Welcome to the real world Paul, despite the claim that we have an economy that has survived the worst of a global recession and is trying to utilise new skill, it is crap...we are in the height of high unemployment and underutilisation of the workforce which is massaged and covered up by the government...don't feel bad about it (easier said than done), it is ****.

	20-06-2003 03:35									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Colon You can always quit if you don't like it.

Not always an option if you have bills to pay...

	20-06-2003 03:39									#14
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I don't think that's the case with Vesayen.

	20-06-2003 03:40									#15
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Thankyou reds4ever, I wish people would realise this sometimes...

	20-06-2003 03:46									#16
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I think I have way better idea of what unemployment is like than you do Provost.

	20-06-2003 03:48									#17
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I've had 7 months of unemployment and I quite freely admit, it is soul destroying...I never want to be out of work again...

	20-06-2003 03:49									#18
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Look at all us Europeans together

	20-06-2003 03:52									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Work is hard if you're a grunt

quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Is this new view mean you are going to finally start touching yourself?

quote: Originally posted by Colon You can always quit if you don't like it.

That's the cross-post of the day right there.

	20-06-2003 03:54									#20
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I've had about the same period, plus parents in much worse.

Work isn't fun, nothing much you can do it about it.

	20-06-2003 03:58									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen I've decided which way my view goes........ VIVA LA REVALUCION!! Down with the capitalist pigs! And no, I STILL will not masturbate.

	20-06-2003 04:00									#22
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Vesayen,

You have to work smart to avoid exploitation. Better get a college loan and some good education it you don't want to be exploited. You can still be a communist after you get trained though

	20-06-2003 04:02									#23
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I honestly don't mind work, once I get stuck into something and know what I am doing and have a bit of responsibility, I am fine...although I don't like been 'watched' in my work...I like autonomy...

	20-06-2003 04:11									#24
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quote: I didn't post a thread when I got a job that paid me 5€/hour, in which I had some working days starting at 12, ending at 12.

Somehow I don't think this was fully legal...
and 5€ net isn't all that bad (depending on the work, and yes I've done dishes for less aswell)

	20-06-2003 04:13									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious

Glad your happy!

quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Vesayen, You have to work smart to avoid exploitation. Better get a college loan and some good education it you don't want to be exploited. You can still be a communist after you get trained though

I'm going to a well known highly aclaimed college next year-but because im middle class, no scholarship $$$..... im gonna be paying it off for 10 years.

	20-06-2003 04:20									#26
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Stick with it. Hard work is the best work. Sitting around pushing pencils and feeling like you've done something is a vanity.

In a few weeks you'll feel the difference. In a few months you'll think you're strong. In a few years you actually will be...

That feels good.

	20-06-2003 05:30									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Stick with it. Hard work is the best work. Sitting around pushing pencils and feeling like you've done something is a vanity.

	20-06-2003 05:38									#29
	Re: I started my second job today..... it COMPLETLEY changed my view of the world...... Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by Vesayen I need more money........ so I took a SECOND job....... im working for a furniture company......moving furniture all day for $7.00 an hour..... It changed my view of the work-force and our country by allowing me to personally realize how much manual labor sucks.

No ****. I've had 3 summer jobs that involved that sort of thing. The physical exertion wasn't that bad; the boredom is the worst part. After three months you're at the point where you start to get aggressive. When I was 18 I practically started a fistfight with a lift driver for no reason whatsoever (literally...just wanted to punch somebody).

I have enormous respect for anybody who can stand to do that sort of thing their entire life. If it were me, I'd be makin' a quick trip to the gun store and buying a one-way ticket out.

	20-06-2003 05:42									#30
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KH!



Why no longer Frogger??