20-06-2003 06:32									#1
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Over the past 24 hours, a realisation has occured to me.

George W. Bush is actually a nice guy. I watched a documentary last night about some chick reporter who followed his campaign trail for the year preceding his election, and looking at him on screen, it turned out that I actually would regard im as high on my list of "people to have a beer with".

Of course, that does not mean that his policies dont stink, but then, it would be fun to convince him of the philosophical flaws of his actions. Would make an intriguiing U-turn in American politics: Neocon becomes Elijahist .

Dont worry, I haven't turned conservative on you guys, I shall forever be standing in the way of the dark forces of "common sense".

Dont for one second assume common sense to be a good thing!

	20-06-2003 06:35									#2
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' I shall forever be standing in the way of the dark forces of "common sense".'

Maybe now you're beginning to earn the right to make that statement.

	20-06-2003 06:37									#3
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Ah , but he wasn't president yet at that point.

	20-06-2003 06:39									#4
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Bush is a nice guy. he may even not be stupid. But he sure does say or do things that gets him on the media as being dumb and his policies do stink.

	20-06-2003 06:39									#5
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Well, I'm assuming that he hadnt turned instantly evil as soon as he became president (although technically, that didnt happen, Gore should have won).

The documentary was funny though, she filmed some guy waving a banner with a rainbow on it, and the words "vote Bush, because gay people have too many rights" .

	20-06-2003 06:41									#6
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I'm sure some of the administration and House Republicans are nice people... in social settings... except for maybe D1ck Cheney. Something tells me D1ck lives up to his name. I would want to meet Dubya and have a beer with him... judging from the fun he had in his past (not "youth" mind you), I'm sure the guy knows how to party.

But that is moot. Some of my friends are great people... but I sure as hell wouldn't want them running the government.

	20-06-2003 06:42									#7
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	20-06-2003 06:42									#8
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I know, but lets put it another way, it doesn't make my life any easier critiquing him. My job would be so much simpler if he had the personality of "Vlad the Impaler" or something.

	20-06-2003 06:42									#9
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*reminds elijah of the time Bush mocked a woman on death row about to be executed*

Bush is charming and knows how to schmooze--that's been his whole career. What you saw was him putting on his best manners.

I'm not saying he's evil, but I've seen and read enough about him to know that he isn't that nice a guy. For one thing, he is known to have an extremely vindictive personality, which is why the GOP lost the Senate to the Dems his first year. For another, you don't get to be POTUS by being a nice guy. Rest assured, he had to screw people over.

	20-06-2003 06:46									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov *reminds elijah of the time Bush mocked a woman on death row about to be executed*

"Oh, I've found God! I'm sorry I murdered those people! Let me off!"

"Well, if you've found God I guess you're square when you meet him in person, eh?"

	20-06-2003 06:46									#11
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I would never have a beer with someone as conservative as Bush. How can you excuse his policies and just say he's a nice guy? I wouldn't trust him for sh1t.

	20-06-2003 06:46									#12
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As [b]all[b] of them have...,

Like you said,

quote: For another, you don't get to be POTUS by being a nice guy.

	20-06-2003 06:46									#13
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quote: reminds elijah of the time Bush mocked a woman on death row about to be executed

What happened there? I dont know about this.

	20-06-2003 06:49									#14
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Im separating policies from his personality. Because of his policies, I would like to see him tried for crimes against humanity, and I would very much enjoy the explosions if he ever met the founding fathers.

	20-06-2003 06:57									#15
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I view Bush as a bumbling, yet well-meaning and likeable guy.

	20-06-2003 06:58									#16
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quote: Originally posted by elijah What happened there? I dont know about this.

During an interview he publically mocked some murdering scum's plea not to be put to death for her crimes.

	20-06-2003 06:58									#17
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quote: "Oh, I've found God! I'm sorry I murdered those people! Let me off!" "Well, if you've found God I guess you're square when you meet him in person, eh?"

Is that true?? If so, it is absolutely shocking!!

	20-06-2003 07:02									#18
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That's uncharacteristic of Bush....
too witty.

	20-06-2003 07:05									#19
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nah, come on, theres a line, he crossed it there.

	20-06-2003 07:07									#20
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I think she is the one that crossed it. She did kill people.

ACK!

	20-06-2003 07:10									#21
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quote: Im separating policies from his personality. Because of his policies, I would like to see him tried for crimes against humanity,

You know where to send him

And someone has prssed charges against him for this only yesterday (well, they made it public yesterday, but being nice guys (and easely pushed-over) we forwarded it to the US.

	20-06-2003 07:38									#22
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quote: Originally posted by elijah Is that true?? If so, it is absolutely shocking!!

He did, and even used a high-pitched voice to simulate her pleas.

(She was a grandmother, by the way. Think her grandkids will be able to see those statements in the future?)

No one is arguing that she wasn't guilty, but his mocking of her in the face of her own execution was not only inexcusably cruel to her loved ones, it was extremely unprofessional and inappropriate for a state governor.

	20-06-2003 08:38									#23
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quote: but his mocking of her in the face of her own execution was not only inexcusably cruel to her loved ones, it was extremely unprofessional and inappropriate for a state governor.

No doubt that Bush will be going to hell... same as his daddy, Reagan, Cheney, and tons of others... That's why I'd like to meet him. I'd play along, laughing at his jokes, while thinking to myself, "haha say hi to satan for me, 4sshole!"

I like to be exposed to evil, so that I can recognize it better.

	20-06-2003 08:39									#24
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I thought you were an atheist?

	20-06-2003 08:41									#25
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Nice catch

	20-06-2003 08:45									#26
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quote: I thought you were an atheist?

1. It's an expression
2. I'm a soft-atheist...
3. I tend to think that when we die, there will be consequences for actions

	20-06-2003 08:48									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Sava 1. It's an expression

Seemed rather detailed, though...

quote: 2. I'm a soft-atheist...

Crunches will help. And stop eating, dammit.

quote: 3. I tend to think that when we die, there will be consequences for actions

Certainly. The consequence for our act of dying will be our miraculous transformation into worm turds.

	20-06-2003 08:53									#28
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*I am participating in a thread with Boris. The last three or four threads that I have posted in a thread with him, I have found some way to make a lame gay joke. I will not stop now.*

quote: The consequence for our act of dying will be our miraculous transformation into worm turds.

I bet you have experience with worms already, Boris.

	20-06-2003 08:55									#29
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I also saw Journey with George by the daughter of Nancy Polosi

	20-06-2003 08:56									#30
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quote: Seemed rather detailed, though...

realistically, Satan probably does not exist... but it's fun to think of such encounters.

quote: Crunches will help. And stop eating, dammit.

I know, I'm trying to make time to work out... and I'm eating better

quote: Certainly. The consequence for our act of dying will be our miraculous transformation into worm turds.

It's possible, but to assert it's certainty is just as wrong as to assert the literal Christian belief in God.