20-06-2003 21:22									#1
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Do wedelay and sell RP chivalry or go now and try to get a NTA from GS?

Please read discussion/chatlogs before you vote.

	21-06-2003 03:57									#2
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3rd option..

Delay Chiv now by setting research to 0%
(therefore we cant trade to anyone...RP wont become suspicious)

Delay the war if ND agrees... the log indicates this is their preference.

	21-06-2003 04:36									#3
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My arguement to delay comes down to this. Attacks must have overwhelming advanatge at a localized point. With time we can create such a force with a short delay.
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	21-06-2003 06:18									#4
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quote: Delay Chiv now by setting research to 0% (therefore we cant trade to anyone...RP wont become suspicious)

The issue is that we need to get Chivalry approx. 5 turns before we attack. If ND agrees to this, it might be the best answer however.

But, we will have produced more horsemen that will need upgrading, then again, we will have more money from going at 0% for a few turns.

	21-06-2003 09:43									#5
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In RL, Clausewitz once said:

"Victory goes to the army with the biggest batallions"

In Civ3, Field Marshall Zen once said:

"Victory goes to the army with the biggest stacks"


If a delay can net us 3-4 extra Riders, I say delay. ND will be happy about it, I can assure you.

Anyway, let's make this an important part of tomorrow's chat.

Last edited by Master Zen on 21-06-2003 at 09:49

	21-06-2003 16:45									#6
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Sorry if I stepped on any toes...I shot off an email when Darekill said he could not make the chat

quote: We have been discussing your comment that we delay the war for a few turns. We will only have 9 riders available, and are considering stopping research for a couple of rounds. If we did this, would it disrupt your plans ?

His response

quote: I can only speak for myself since i have not discussed this with the three other consuls but i think it will be acceptable but only if you don't give the tech away too soon especialy not to spain. The last thing we need is spanisch Knights. they coud eat up our defenses with ease. If you would delay the research for four or five turns then we would be able to add another 50 g to our offer since we are realy interested not to see chivalry in spanish hands too soon.

	21-06-2003 19:21									#7
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ok, it looks like delaying is the best course of action.

We'll have to inform GS, though, that we are delaying. They have said many times that it is not an essential tech for them, so I don't think it will be a problem.

Legoland trade won't happen for a few turns after we originally would have gotten chivalry, so I don't think it will be a problem.