21-06-2003 02:03									#1
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This is the Black Isle forums on Interplay's website:

http://forums.interplay.com/viewforum.php?f=45

It seems that it is an open secret, that Black Isle's next project (code named 'Van Buren') WILL be Fallout 3!



So far what I've gotten is that FO3 will have turn based AND real time combat, and you can pick. Everything else is not settled, I guess.

Hopefully this actually turns out to be another trip in the wasteland .

	21-06-2003 03:03									#2
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It seems like they are still just in the conjecture stage to me.

ACK!

	21-06-2003 07:08									#3
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check that out all

	21-06-2003 07:57									#4
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Just because Van Burean has been talked about doesn't mean it will happen...at least not for a while. Look at Jefferson.

	21-06-2003 08:04									#5
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quote: Just because Van Burean has been talked about doesn't mean it will happen...at least not for a while. Look at Jefferson.

Um... it is VERY unlikely that Van Buren will suffer the same fate as Jefferson, especially considering Jefferson was a D&D game, and Interplay LOST the D&D license to Atari/Infogrames (which is why Neverwinter Nights had to be sold to Atari in order for it to get published).

	21-06-2003 10:56									#6
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That's not what happened at all. Bioware left first and for a while they didn't have a publisher. Furthermore, Interplay published a D&D game AFTER NWN was released.

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	21-06-2003 12:08									#7
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you better not be getting my hopes up for nothing

	22-06-2003 00:16									#8
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Which is better fallout 1 or 2, i just realised they're both at the bottom of that big pile of games that ive never played

	22-06-2003 01:21									#9
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Depends. If you like a lot of pop culture references from 1998, then Fallout 2 is your bet. If you don't, then go for Fallout.

	22-06-2003 01:46									#10
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quote: Furthermore, Interplay published a D&D game AFTER NWN was released.

I assume you are refering to Icewind Dale II? That was a special (basically one-shot) deal.

Jefferson was rumored to either be IWD 3 or BG 3. After the Forgotten Realms licence was taken away from them (and they refused to license it for another D&D title), naturally it was going to die.

I see no reason why Fallout 3/ Van Buren will suffer the same fate. It isn't based on D&D at all.

	22-06-2003 02:03									#11
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Jefferson is still on the backburner, meaning it hasn't been cancelled. Heck, much of the talk surrounding it was made last summer, after NWN was released.

NWN was Interplay property for many years. If they wanted to, they could have done something to get it published.

	22-06-2003 03:02									#12
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Ah...you beat me to the news..i've been meaning to post something for a few days now...but too damn lazy to do it

...However, i'm not too lazy to dance to this news.


I've get all of my fallout news from these two sites btw...
www.duckandcover.net
www.nma-fallout.com

In the news items you'll find links to some FO3 relevant forum posts.

	22-06-2003 06:05									#13
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quote: Jefferson is still on the backburner, meaning it hasn't been cancelled. Heck, much of the talk surrounding it was made last summer, after NWN was released.

No, it's done. I'll never see the light of day.

	22-06-2003 06:13									#14
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No, it's not done and you don't know what you are talking about.

	23-06-2003 06:26									#15
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It's done... you have no idea what you are talking about.

	23-06-2003 11:20									#16
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How can it be done and there be very little info on it?

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Maybe some links or references could clear the air?

	23-06-2003 17:59									#18
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These are great, GREAT news!

Obviously, the most important part is where the story will be set.

	23-06-2003 18:16									#19
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The only creditable speculation I have seen says that Jefferson has to stay on hold so that it is still on the books. They can't afford to write it off until they have a profit from another title to bury it in, but the entire development team is now shifted to VB or other projects so its essentially dead in the water. If its a D&D product thats where its going to stay.

	25-06-2003 01:58									#20
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Grumbold, exactly. They only way it can see the light of day is if they sell it to Atari, and they don't want to do that.

	25-06-2003 17:10									#21
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wtf is Jefferson, anyway?

	26-06-2003 12:18									#22
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That's what we are discussing

Rumour has it is Fallout3. But it could be a d&d project or even something else.

	26-06-2003 12:57									#23
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What is 'Van Buren' then? ( cool names btw. )

	28-06-2003 15:55									#24
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Jefferson was the project name for the defunct game, presumed to be D&D possibly in a Dalelands setting. The project now occupying many of the old Jefferson team is referred to as van Buren, believed to be Fallout 3.

	01-07-2003 06:58									#25
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Interplay is a horribly managed company.

	01-07-2003 09:27									#26
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I can't say that.

They put out some great games in the late 90's and early 21st century.

I have no complaints.