22-06-2003 08:31									#1
	I don't get anti-smoking ads... Full PM-box? Change here!

the always show some kids doing something and one of them randomly asking if people want a cigarette... why would this teenager who went to the trouble of getting cigarettes and paid for them, why would they ever just start giving away cigarettes willy nilly?

i dont get these ads.


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	22-06-2003 08:33									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer i dont get these ads.

The point is to stop you smoking.

	22-06-2003 08:36									#3
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Maybe the kid is trying to buy friends?

	22-06-2003 08:40									#4
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some of the ads work. some of them don't.

like, i remember the "this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs" ad... i thought those worked well. these recent ones equating it to terrorism, well, i don't really get. ah, well.

	22-06-2003 08:43									#5
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but again... why would some teenager who had to go to the trouble of getting an adult to buy the cigarettes for him and had to pay for them... why would he ever give up these cigarettes that were expensive and a touble to obtain?!

	22-06-2003 08:45									#6
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Well, the ones I can't stand are those "Truth" ads.

Man those kids are so annoying.

	22-06-2003 08:48									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer but again... why would some teenager who had to go to the trouble of getting an adult to buy the cigarettes for him and had to pay for them... why would he ever give up these cigarettes that were expensive and a touble to obtain?!

Friendship. Generosity. Altruism. Sex. Fun

Next you'll be complaining about people like me who give their hard-earned loonies to subway musicians.

	22-06-2003 08:48									#8
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**** man there is one on right now.

	22-06-2003 09:10									#9
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"Are you telling me that by buying drugs, I'm giving money to terrorists?"
"Uh huh."
.....
.....
.....
"Really?"
"Yep."

DRUG MONEY HELPS SUPPORT TERROR.

Incredibly ineffective.

I liked the "this is your brain on drugs" commercials, and the ones where they showed actual dead organs and how they were effected by drugs.

I hate the drug money supports terror ones, though It doesn't smoothly flow, and its artistic value is INCREDIBLY low

	22-06-2003 10:37									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed these recent ones equating it to terrorism, well, i don't really get. ah, well.

quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 I hate the drug money supports terror ones, though It doesn't smoothly flow, and its artistic value is INCREDIBLY low

Agreed....

Especially since their target market (Highschool kids) mostly just smoke pot or cigaretts (note I said mostly... there are some exceptions...) the add if it was truthfull should be more along the lines of "Drugs supports Billy next door... he needs more money for grow lights, and booze."

	22-06-2003 10:50									#11
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Oh now those edgy and cool Truth kids just dumped a dump truck full of 5 billion dollars in fake money! Did you know that's how much the tobacco industry would lose if nobody bought their products?

OH MY THEY ARE SO WITTY

HA HA HO HO HEE HEE


NOT

	22-06-2003 11:20									#12
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quote: the add if it was truthfull should be more along the lines of "Drugs supports Billy next door... he needs more money for grow lights, and booze."

	22-06-2003 12:46									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer but again... why would some teenager who had to go to the trouble of getting an adult to buy the cigarettes for him and had to pay for them... why would he ever give up these cigarettes that were expensive and a touble to obtain?!

most kids are communists these days.

either that, or they're corporate shills for the tobacco company, getting kids addicted.

	22-06-2003 17:25									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer the always show some kids doing something and one of them randomly asking if people want a cigarette... why would this teenager who went to the trouble of getting cigarettes and paid for them, why would they ever just start giving away cigarettes willy nilly?

Well, since they generally steal them it's not like they're losing anything. I was randomly offered cigarettes and drugs when I was in high school.

	22-06-2003 19:52									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Poogas Especially since their target market (Highschool kids) mostly just smoke pot

I've seen one for pot. It shows losers still living in thier parents basement for years after they should be long gone.

	22-06-2003 20:50									#16
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Its a propaganda. Even if it is for a "just" cause. What they want is an effect and in order to get that effect they'll employ whatever strategy they can to maximize the effect desired. Truly unbiased, neutral and objective ad should run something like "Heres the negative side to smoking and here are some positive side to smoking and here are some misconceptions of smoking.. "

But I guess it turns out fairoverall, cause tabacco companies use propaganda of their own anyway, so it neutralizes it out.

When I used to smoke, I didnt give out my ciggies even if they asked. I totally didnt get the mentality of smokers developing a courtesy that almost made it mandatory to give out their expensively taxed ciggaretes whenever asked just as if it was some cheap ass stick of gum.

	23-06-2003 08:55									#17
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DinoDoc:

Here in Korea, men stay often until late 30s, and unmarried girls often never leave.

In fact, quite often the kids don't leave, because grandpa lives with the family, the oldest son just becomes 'head of the family'.

Korea is proof you can cram an entire extended family into a tiny appartment.

	23-06-2003 08:56									#18
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The worst commercials are the anti-Marijuana ones.

What a crock.

	23-06-2003 08:58									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Asher The worst commercials are the anti-Marijuana ones. What a crock.

i like the one where they guy gives the girl weed and then undoes her blouse.

THANK YOU ANTI-DRUG!

	23-06-2003 09:23									#20
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I don't know, personally my biggest beef with these sorts of ad campaigns is that they assume that kids being offered- and accepting, moreover, unless given proper guidance- tobacco, drugs, alcohol, etc., is the norm. Honestly, I was never offered any such things in school, and neither were any of my friends- and supposedly it's "normal" that peer pressure is all but forcing them on you by about fifth grade.

	23-06-2003 09:23									#21
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quote: most kids are communists these days. either that, or they're corporate shills for the tobacco company, getting kids addicted.

I wonder which category I fall into?

	23-06-2003 09:32									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker Here in Korea,

It isn't aimed for the Korean market.

	23-06-2003 21:27									#23
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quote: I've seen one for pot. It shows losers still living in thier parents basement for years after they should be long gone.

so they're equating pot-smoking to being a trekkie? and it's not working?