23-06-2003 19:23									#1
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In a nod to common sense the government of Belgium has announced that they will amend the much talked about & abused law which allows Belgian courts to bring to trail anyone from anywhere in the world. For the past 10 years the law has been in effect and a great many frivolous law suites have been filed including ones which alleged that both President Bush & Prime Minister Blair were guilty of war crimes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3012106.stm

	23-06-2003 19:26									#2
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I´m not quite happy, but given the potential for abuse I think they did the right thing.

	23-06-2003 19:44									#3
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Common sense prevails for once.

	23-06-2003 19:45									#4
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Belgium ought not have given in. Infact, they should have deployed two carrier battle groups off the eastern seaboard just to prove that you don't mess with them.

	23-06-2003 19:58									#5
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These Belgiummers must be Belgiumming Belgiummed up. This Belgiumming law is the only Belgiumming thing they had going for them.

	23-06-2003 19:59									#6
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Apart from their beer.

	23-06-2003 19:59									#7
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I think the law itself is bullocks, but I don't like Belgium has given in to the USA.

	23-06-2003 20:09									#8
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That law always reminded me of the old Monty Python one-liner on how to balance the budget in the UK:

"I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad."

	23-06-2003 20:12									#9
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro I´m not quite happy, but given the potential for abuse I think they did the right thing.

What BeBro said.

	23-06-2003 20:18									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac I think the law itself is bullocks, but I don't like Belgium has given in to the USA.

If the law was bollocks, why does it matter why they changed it?

	23-06-2003 20:24									#11
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Belgium did NOT amend the law because of American pressure.
At least, that is what our politicians say.

Anyway, removing NATO headquarters from Brussels would cost an estimate 3000 jobs.
Removing American traffic from the port of Antwerp a great deal more.

	23-06-2003 20:27									#12
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo These Belgiummers must be Belgiumming Belgiummed up. This Belgiumming law is the only Belgiumming thing they had going for them.

Congratulations! You win the award for the Most Gratuitous Use of the Word "Belgium" in a Serious Apolyton OT Thread.

	23-06-2003 20:37									#13
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Are you American, Lorizael? I am pretty sure that the Belgium tirade only appears in the American edition of the third book. I, personally, have the British edition which lacks it.

	23-06-2003 20:41									#14
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This law was wack, but no more wack then Helms-Burton.

OK OK, it was a little more wack.

Maybe the Beligian courts/parliament can just hold special sessions to list 'people abroad we don't like'.

The North Koreans do it.

	23-06-2003 20:58									#15
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quote: If the law was bollocks, why does it matter why they changed it?

quote: I don't like Belgium has given in to the USA.

	23-06-2003 21:00									#16
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I believe I asked why that matters to you if you agree with the result?

	23-06-2003 21:23									#17
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Are you American, Lorizael? I am pretty sure that the Belgium tirade only appears in the American edition of the third book. I, personally, have the British edition which lacks it.

How odd. And yes, I am an American. Actually, I've got the Omnibus edition which is the first three books in one, plus a little explanation of how The Guide came to be, and directions for getting off the planet.

	23-06-2003 22:50									#18
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quote: I believe I asked why that matters to you if you agree with the result?

I presumed the "I don't like Belgium has given in to the USA." phrase would give you information enough. I agree with the result but I don't like the method it was done. Would you like it if some country meddled with your internal affairs?

	23-06-2003 23:10									#19
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I must congratulate the US goverment with this result, I'm astound on how brilliant they are in atagonising people towards the US.
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Was it a silly law, no it wasn't, it was just obused, the latest one, (although they did it just to show how easy it was ), was filing lawsuit against our foreign minister for selling arms to Nepal (legaly).
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quote: Infact, they should have deployed two carrier battle groups off the eastern seaboard just to prove that you don't mess with them.

We wanted too, really. But one of our two officers is down with the flew and the other one didn't want to chip in for gasoline to keep the dinghy running.

	24-06-2003 00:40									#20
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Why didn't Belgium contine the Maginot line? Wouldn't it have been a lot cheaper than getting overrun by the Germans?

	24-06-2003 00:51									#21
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Would you like it if some country meddled with your internal affairs?



Oh, the irony.

	24-06-2003 00:58									#22
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Would you like it if some country meddled with your internal affairs? Oh, the irony.

That comment itself is ironic

	24-06-2003 01:11									#23
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quote: Originally posted by GP Why didn't Belgium contine the Maginot line? Wouldn't it have been a lot cheaper than getting overrun by the Germans?

It was continued (though maybe not completely because Belgium became neutral in 1936, plus they skipped the Ardennes because it was thought of as a "natural fortress" )

	24-06-2003 02:35									#24
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Would you like it if some country meddled with your internal affairs? Oh, the irony.

Something just passed my mind you know ... The US removing Saddam in Iraq
I consider that meddling with someone elses internal affairs as well, but a lot more harshly in my very humble opinion, and on top of that quite unjustified too.

Oh, the irony huh DanS?

Once again, arrogance and serious threats from America's part prevail!
Boy and you cowboys are always wondering why so many people on this **** called earth hate you?

It's not the change in the law that annoys me, but the faggy way America manipulated it in their advantage does, actually. Someone should get Rumsfeld out o' there and put him in a mental institution

	24-06-2003 02:47									#25
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quote: Someone should get Rumsfeld out o' there and put him in a mental institution

He already is, it's called the white house for a reason, you know.

	24-06-2003 02:52									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus It's not the change in the law that annoys me, but the faggy way America manipulated it in their advantage does, actually.

The Europeans whine about the Death Penalty in the US, why can't we whine about laws in Europe that we disagree with?

	24-06-2003 02:54									#27
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We don't threaten to demand the move of the UN out of New York if you don't comply with our whining.

	24-06-2003 02:56									#28
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Just because we have the ability to back up our whining is no reason to get out of shape.

	24-06-2003 03:30									#29
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Just because we have the ability to back up our whining is no reason to get out of shape.

Apparently being impotent has severely restricted their sense of humor.