23-06-2003 21:19									#1
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... Hi experts!

Is there any possibilty to define how much turns one settler needs to build a road on a special terrain?
Jimmy dind´t really know if it perhaps is combined with the movement cost.

Thanks in advance



Cifer

	23-06-2003 21:25									#2
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I thought under the editor with terrain editor or possible using the effects editor, but to my surprise, no you can't change that.

	23-06-2003 22:40									#3
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I think it's tied into the terrain's movement cost.

	25-06-2003 00:09									#4
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Yes, it is movement cost * 2 .

	25-06-2003 05:02									#5
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Good to see you're reading these threads, SlowThinker. Your posts in the Great Library have saved me from more than a few designing mistakes.

	25-06-2003 06:56									#6
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perfect, thanks all

	25-06-2003 21:59									#7
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I will post some hypoteses concerning roads. Please deny or confirm them.

This is a summary of all possibilities how the trade is generated on squares:

A) Basic trade from squares:
as defined in rules.txt;
+1 trade from river (works also on squares with 0 trade)

B) Trade from roads (+1 trade):
Generated on
1. three first terrain types in rules.txt (Desert, Grassland, Plains)
2. land squares that have trade>0 after point A)

C) Trade from Republic/Demo (+1 trade) and from Colossus (+1 trade):
Generated on squares that have trade>0 after point B)

D) Trade from superhighways
Generated on squares that have roads (or RR): + RoundDown (1/2 * TradeAfterPointC) trade

Last edited by SlowThinker on 27-06-2003 at 01:38

	25-06-2003 22:02									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Boco Good to see you're reading these threads, SlowThinker. Your posts in the Great Library have saved me from more than a few designing mistakes.

I have a feeling that Civ2 community is divided into several isolated parts: SP players are in Civ2-Strategy, MP in Civ2-MP, scenario-oriented players are here. Almost no communication between them.

	26-06-2003 07:38									#9
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quote: B) Trade from roads (+1 trade): Generated on 1. three first terrain types in rules.txt (Desert, Grassland, Plains) 2. squares that have trade>0 due after point A)

From some testing in ToT, I'd conclude that ocean squares with roads do not get a +1 bonus even if they have trade>0 in @TERRAIN. So, I'd edit B.2. to "land squares that have trade>0 due after point A)."

And yes, there is a lot of fragmentation on the Civ2 forums. The Strategy forum has posted some incredible wizardry about plain vanilla Civ2. Very useful when you can extrapolate to a modified Rules.txt.

	26-06-2003 14:00									#10
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Thanks @ all!
The thing with the movement cost is perfect perfect for my scen...

	26-06-2003 17:19									#11
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A river on the tile adds an additional turn if you are building a road...

	26-06-2003 19:04									#12
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It depends if you are using Settler or Engineer. But Gastrifidis Info:Settlers covers that.

	08-07-2003 05:50									#13
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But we are speaking about a SP mode up to this point. In MP mode it is different:
Accelerated orders (in Multiplayer/Internet mode)