13-09-2003 21:41									#91
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Ah that's great. Two previous classmates of mine went to study aerospace engineer as well last year, I believe in Delft.

	14-09-2003 16:57									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Anyway, I have a small question for Drogue. Is the fact that the nutrient square in DBTSverse Portal's base radius isn't worked an intentional decision to eg produce the crawler faster, or did the game automatically place those bases' workers?

I will check, but I think automatic placement. I will check and see which is better next turn.

	14-09-2003 17:06									#93
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I have a last minute suggestion. How about temporarily switching production to the PTS in Logic Loop? See my reasons in the SP problems!!! thread.

	14-09-2003 20:01									#94
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Err... Despite that the turn has been up for more than 36 hours, and despite that Drogue has already been online in that time, the turn hasn't been played yet. Any problems?

	14-09-2003 20:57									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue I will check, but I think automatic placement. I will check and see which is better next turn.

I am pretty sure that it is automatic placement. When I wrote my orders, I included a line to switch production to the nutrient square. I judged it to be worth it, given the faster growth, but you may make your own judgement (IIRC, we lose 1 mineral and 1 energy per turn, but gain 3 nutrients, allowing us to grow in 3 or 4 turns).

	14-09-2003 22:22									#96
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We lose 1 mineral but we will gain two nutrients and one energy.

	14-09-2003 22:27									#97
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Ah, sorry. In any case, my point still holds that it's better to switch.

BTW, should we continue waiting for Drogue, summon Function Delta, or should either you or I play the turn?

	14-09-2003 22:32									#98
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You or I playing would be the fastest I think.

But though for most things the orders are in, there's the issue of Logic Loop. Should we keep producing the WP, or should we switch production to eg the PTS to try to deceive the Hive?

	14-09-2003 22:47									#99
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Switching to the HGP is probably the best idea... but they may not rush (thinking we just started, and feeling confident that their crawlers will work in time).

BTW, you'd better play the turn. I opened it before so I could see what position we were in (and thus compose my orders, etc.), so if I submit my file to be played, it will register that I reloaded.

	14-09-2003 22:53									#100
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Switch to the HGP, not PTS? (Just checking if you wrote right. I don't really see the reason for doing so. )

Anyway, I started playing the turn some five minutes ago, but I will have a reload message as well...

	14-09-2003 23:14									#101
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Whoops... I meant start the PTS. Argh.

	14-09-2003 23:18									#102
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Ah ok. In that case we have unanimity, and I will post the turn in the turn tracking thread.

	15-09-2003 03:03									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Err... Despite that the turn has been up for more than 36 hours, and despite that Drogue has already been online in that time, the turn hasn't been played yet. Any problems?

I am sorry for that For some reason, my computer did not show any new posts in the Turn Tracking thread, and when I clicked to check it did not show the new messages, until Maniac posted, which I have just seen I am very sorry for that, quite simply, I had no idea the turn was up. It may be because I had turned off cookies, as I used it while at work too.

Now for the other news, I will, as planned (but only confirmed yesterday) be in Florence as of Tuesday, for 1 week. Obviously another Function will need to take my place as acting Prime Function then. Sorry about that. However, when I get back, since I now have a 2 evening a week job, I have all days a week free, and so should be far more active Free time finally

Thank you for your patience. Things are settling down here now.

	15-09-2003 03:13									#104
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Hmm... Function Delta would be the person in line to take over for you, but he seems to be rarely online these days.

	15-09-2003 17:13									#105
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....sorry about that...i didnt noticed it...and i am rather buzy with getting used to doing something for school...but ok...i am sorry...

	16-09-2003 08:08									#106
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No, I wasn't saying anything like that. I was implying that somebody needs to get a hold of you (and I don't know how, other than PMing).

	10-10-2003 21:01									#107
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Drogue, seeing that we have a complicated diplomatic situation with PEACE, and that we perhaps need to decide our strategy and research choice for the next few decades or so in the next turn (if we accept Doc:Ini), may I suggest you wait a bit with playing the turn?

	11-10-2003 00:14									#108
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Of course. I was thinking it was needed this turn anyway. However if we wait too long PEACE will think we are trying to break the deal IMHO. If we go relatively quickly, we can claim not to have read the PM and so did not know they expected anything back from the Doc Ini trade, we thought it was a gift

	11-10-2003 01:17									#109
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Err... somehow I don't think they'll believe that.

	11-10-2003 02:36									#110
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Why not? If they PM DBTS who we have already said is not that active, it is quite easy that we could play the turn without him having read and forwarded the message, since they did not send it to me. Therefore we saw that there, and thought we should accept it. We did not know there were conditions attached.

This will not save the pact, but will have 2 effects:
1) It may delay war by 1 or 2 turns while we bicker about it.
2) Flubber said he would leave any PBEM that people didn't stick to the rules with. Googlie will tell them, as he told us, if asked, that what we did was not against the rules, but would not be able to give them any more details, as that would give them info they shouldn't have. They will think because we didn't read it it was not against the rules, whereas it is actually because it is quite simply not against the rules. It may stop Flubber and others leaving, while helping our other diplomacy. It is quite an easy mistake to make, and others may well believe it, as I think PEACE may cause quite a stir if we do this, as they will feel they've been cheated. It is unsportsmanlike, but not against the rules.

	11-10-2003 02:51									#111
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I don't think it's unsportsmanlike.

And I didn't realise they had only sent it to DBTS. Wonderful! Having him appointed External Affairs Function is quite possibly the smartest move we've made!

	11-10-2003 02:59									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Corellion Having him appointed External Affairs Function is quite possibly the smartest move we've made!

	11-10-2003 03:33									#113
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In order to make this plausible, we're going to have to at least pretent we made some sort of attempt to contact them before the 48 hours was up. How can we make a plausible attempt without them being able to respond in time?

	11-10-2003 03:43									#114
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Anyway, I as Second Functon replacing "the absent External Affairs Function" can ask PEACE why they have offered us Doc:Ini, and an hour later Drogue can post the turn, not knowing I just contacted Flubber...

	11-10-2003 03:54									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Corellion How can we make a plausible attempt without them being able to respond in time?

We don't. They know we're out for ourselves first, just like them. We would pass up an opportunity, and we would presume it was a gift from our pactmates, since they wanted to be paid the HEC back quicker. However the change to Non Math will be harder to explain. We only need about 2 turns until we get Non Math, and then 2 until we get our first impact cruiser.

	11-10-2003 03:56									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Anyway, I as Second Functon replacing "the absent External Affairs Function" can ask PEACE why they have offered us Doc:Ini, and an hour later Drogue can post the turn, not knowing I just contacted Flubber...

We're so evil!

	11-10-2003 06:01									#117
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So do I wait on playing, or do I play as quickly as possible so it seems like DBTS didn't tell us? The turn is now over 24 hours old, so may be coming to us soon.

Flubber is in Canada right? When is he not online? Maniac needs to send the PM when Flubber won't be online, and then an hour or two later I post the turn, so they cannot reply in between, yet we can say "we couldn't wait any longer for your reply, so decided to play". We've told them DBTS is inactive, so could easily have not told us, and they only PMed him, so we're safe there. You all know I sometimes play the email too hastily ( ) and don't like stopping mid-turn to have to ask things, so I would presume that some sort of deal was reached, which was why they gifted that. It's all plausible

	11-10-2003 06:08									#118
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Flubber lives in Calgary (where I lived up until a month ago). Thus, he will probably be offline between 1AM and 6AM MST (I'm playing it safe here). That would be between 8AM and 1PM GMT.

	13-10-2003 03:10									#119
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Drogue, you forgot to execute my order to send the Logic Loop scout patrol to Zetaris. Zetaris is growing in five turns and the Zetarian crawler production is only done in four turns, so it' important we get a temporary garrison down there asap. Since Logic Loop is currently guarded by the Ogre, sending the LL scout patrol seems best.

	13-10-2003 14:29									#120
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hmz...PEACE wont like ME after this ...