27-06-2003 08:19									#31
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i saw too many games end b/c of simul movement.....don't use it anymore, i just play with fast peeps

	27-06-2003 17:21									#32
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Yep, fast people with fast connections.

	27-06-2003 18:48									#33
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i can't believe dial up is still in use...but then again, i live in the city.......

must be the country folk

	27-06-2003 18:55									#34
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Looking at the results, two things surprise me.
One, all the deity selections. Reading in the thread made be believe that a lot of people played at a lower difficulty level.
Two, all the villages only people. Didn't know that many people were afraid of barbs.

	27-06-2003 19:02									#35
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alot of wimps...what surprises me is the amount of wimps playing on deity....

figured all deity players were ragers toooooo

	27-06-2003 19:14									#36
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villages only+large maps= boring settler spitting contests.

	27-06-2003 19:29									#37
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I play small maps - we got rid of barbs because whilist we liked the cash it tended to unbalance the game. Someone would be in a barb hell or conversely raking in the cash.

	27-06-2003 19:31									#38
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its my belief that the game gives you the ingredients..and you just have to plant the seeds properly

	27-06-2003 19:58									#39
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Yeah, but it's a trade off. You build better defense/offense to handle barbs and you get more kings. The only problem is when you build up and then don't get them. In the mean time, war has spit out 16 more settlers.

	27-06-2003 20:02									#40
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The other advantage of not having barbs is people don't defend their cities as well - which creates opening for warmongers like me.

	27-06-2003 20:04									#41
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When I spend the extra resources to defend, it's nice that if other people don't they might pay the piper.
I rarely lose a city to barbs.

	27-06-2003 20:38									#42
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and you play 2x.............

	27-06-2003 20:38									#43
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and you play 2x.............

	27-06-2003 20:44									#44
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it is my belief that in 1x1x barbs can totally unbalance the game. if you get early barbs, say archers they can mess your civ up pretty good.

in 2x its easy to control barbs because you can just spit out the units.

1x1x you actually have to account for every tiny shield you get. scrounge those shields.

it gets said all the time but 1x and 2x games are very disimilar

	27-06-2003 20:45									#45
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interesting that only 3 people have chosen double production

	27-06-2003 20:48									#46
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Yes, they are disimilar, but you still can't afford to lose an early city in either. But I think huts have a bigger impact than barbs in 1x. I like playing with both regardless of the settings.

	27-06-2003 21:08									#47
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AH, when i play with Rah i play x2...when i play others i play x1....so ..... bleh.......

they are different games, so is x2 move....

so is not attacking till armour so are larger maps...


x1 barbs are no differnt than single player mode.....just attack out...pure and simple and take your lumps when it doesnt' work, and count your blessings when it does or when you get kings..

med maps with villages...sigh...set, set , set , set , set,....for 4000 years......

	27-06-2003 22:48									#48
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Well, since we are unfortunate to play mostly 1 night stands, 2x prod at least keeps things exciting. If I was in more long term games, 1x would be more attractive.

	28-06-2003 01:14									#49
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yup, x2 unbalances the game, but its more enjoyable...kinda like a nice little hottie, good for the night and you can move on to the next one

	28-06-2003 02:28									#50
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My memory of those types of things are gone. Please rephrase it using a golf analogy.

	28-06-2003 02:34									#51
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uh...... due to my lacking golf game, i cannot compute

	29-06-2003 04:29									#52
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Try a baseball analogy.

	29-06-2003 08:44									#53
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever med maps with villages...sigh...set, set , set , set , set,....for 4000 years......

Stick to your knitting War - I never play medium map - I agree those games are boring and slow, especially if you throw in stupid game slowing rules like no tech trading.

I play small map archi which puts land at a real premium - allowing 10 cities per player max. Barb hotspots on those maps at 1x can really unbalance play.

	29-06-2003 18:28									#54
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huts-no huts is missing...

	30-06-2003 10:13									#55
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yes AH i guess they can.......i suppose when you find a hotspot you have to shuffle the troops and use them to your advantage...

do you allow LH in your games...

	30-06-2003 11:08									#56
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any wonders - no GW if duelling

	30-06-2003 17:47									#57
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LH is way to important on Island worlds. But all the difference preferences and setups are why we're still playing this game.

	30-06-2003 18:01									#58
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lighthouse is my number one priority wonder in duels or games where i expect a lot of early warfare. its the best defence you can have against aggresive civs.

	01-07-2003 07:00									#59
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I certainly had fun using magellans against you.

	01-07-2003 11:41									#60
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LH is a great early wonder on water maps, but magellans is the true crown