11-04-2001 09:36									#1
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I had something interesting happen the other day. I was letting my kids play and he went into the cheat menu and picked the techs he wanted to start with. Then he save the senerio like you guys told me. When we played the game everything want as expected for a while but after about the forth or fith tech advance at the advances stoped. Is this normal? I had a hard finding something to build. I endded up building troops and hoping someone would kill them so I could build more.

	11-04-2001 18:48									#2
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This is only a guess, so don't quote me on this:

If your kids had some advanced techs from the beginning of the game, it might be possible that the advances stop because you've hit a "dead end" on the tech tree. Basically meaning, that if you take a certain tech route that is supposed to lead to one of the techs that you already cheated to get, you won't get a choice for anything because something in the structure of the tree is corrupted.

I really don't know. I just felt bad that one had responded to your question in atleast some manner

	11-04-2001 22:11									#3
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Advances do come more slowly as time passes. If you look at the trade adviser screen you'll se a little table at the bottom which tells you how many of each resource you are producing and how many turns it will take before you make the next advance.

Typically the first one will come in three or four turns, the next something similar (because you will have got a couple of extra cities down and your furst cities will have grown) but then it might take half a dozen turns to reah the third and, say 11 or 12 to reach the firth.

After that there is no real "typical" period because the number of beakers you are producing will depend on how succesful your civ is and whether you are giving priority to development or being distracted by war.

At the same time as the beaker count required for each advance goes up the time taken for each move gets longer. More is going on and there are more units in view.

So it may be that it just seemed as though the advances had stopped - if you keep playing they will come again.

	11-04-2001 22:20									#4
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You're of course right EST if thats the case, I just assumed he meant STOP stopped, not just seemingly stopped

	14-04-2001 13:46									#6
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How many percentage give you to the science ?

	15-04-2001 09:12									#7
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Interesting...that shouldn't happen, in light of the fact that you are perfectly capable of 'skipping' prerequisite techs through trading, stealing, and conquest without damaging your research. Are you sure that no other item in the .txt file were changed (the reaserch paradigm, for example)?

Is a tech actually being researched (shows in the science view as being researched)?

	18-04-2001 05:16									#8
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did your kids do anything else that you now of, like try to rearange tech order or something?

	18-04-2001 06:57									#9
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It is so extremely easy to mess up and hit a dead end with the tech tree, I have done so many times with tech tree when creating scenarios. Its the hardest part of scenario editing in my opinion.

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