26-06-2003 07:08									#31
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europeans > asians. they know it, they made a continent.

southern europe should be made part of africa for the same resaon.

	26-06-2003 13:38									#32
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Krux

	26-06-2003 14:24									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion but how? I'd never have thought it's so much, amerindians being wiped out and all... oh well.

The English wiped them out. The Spanish generally enslaved them, and eventually interbred, since the conquistadores didn't bring European women.

	26-06-2003 14:25									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Uber KruX europeans > asians. they know it, they made a continent. southern europe should be made part of africa for the same resaon.

Uber, you want to chill with your little race/ethnic jokes and trolls, or would you like me to do it for you?

	26-06-2003 14:54									#35
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just chill yourself, Mike

as for the enslavement - I always understood it like Amerindians refused to be slaves and died in slavery.

And did the English kill them or the USians?

	26-06-2003 15:47									#36
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The biggest killer of the amerindian populations was disease. That is thought to be true of North America as well as Central and South America. Not just the Spanish but also English, French and Dutch settlers all introduced smallpox as well as other nasties. AFAIK there have been estimates of 95% mortality rates amongst some tribes from smallpox in coastal areas of N America after contact with Europeans.

The main reason for importing slaves into the Americas from Africa wasn't that the amerindians could not be enslaved but that there just weren't enough of them left after the early disease epidemics.

	26-06-2003 16:16									#37
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And Africans had already had some exposure to many of the diseases of the Old World.

Amerindians had none...



G'night all.

	26-06-2003 16:26									#38
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat The English wiped them out. The Spanish generally enslaved them, and eventually interbred, since the conquistadores didn't bring European women.

Are you sure it was the English? I thought one of the reasons that the colonists got pissed off with us was that we wouldn't let them go west over the Appalachians(sp?) because the Indians were living in that area...? I don't remember in my past reading seeing that we were responsible for that kind of thing in the US.

As someone else said thought that was solely the US' fault after the civil war?

	26-06-2003 16:27									#39
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on a sidenote, the Amerindians also once lived to the east of the apalaches....

	26-06-2003 16:58									#40
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney when it was all decided europe = christendom, asia = filthy heathens. easy.

Well, it's not that easy. Not only because Christianity started in Asia and its major provinces were there and in Africa, not in Europe, but also because the division between Asia and Europe is older. Asia was a land in Asia Minor in the ancient Greek, pre-Christian times, and later all the land on the east of Greece and west to Taurus mountains was called Asia. Later on, all the ground east to greece was called Asia, and what was called Asia up to this time was called Asia Minor from now on; when it comes to Europe, Romans named a little province in eastern Thrace, today completely in Turkey, like that. I don't know what it had to do with mythical Europe, though. Anyway, European province was situated vis a vis Asia Minor... I heard that Europe was first time called Europe in a Polish work,
bla bla bla about twoSarmatias; Asian and European, but I may be wrong here.
When it comes to Africa, it's name also was a name of one Roman province, modern-day Tunisia. It's a funny thing, as
Tunisia has more to do with Europe than Kongo, and Turkey with Europe than China... and both wish to be members of EU... Also, the funny thing is that Roman provinces Asia and Europe are today a part of one country...

quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion yeah, but Russians and Poles are Europeans / filthy heathens that are below us, too.

Perhaps we are... We were always under heavy German influence, something may have remained...

	26-06-2003 17:02									#41
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV The biggest killer of the amerindian populations was disease...

Yeah, but some of the colonists had a habit of collecting native scrotums for use as tobacco pouches.

It didn't exactly boost the birth rate.

	26-06-2003 17:08									#42
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What a practicality... There must be something in germanic nations...