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Starchild is offline Starchild
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Scientific formula for a nice cup of tea
By Richard Milne
Published: June 25 2003 5:00 | Last Updated: June 25 2003 5:00

One of the great scientific mysteries - and a cause of social division through the ages - was resolved yesterday, when it was proved that the milk should be poured first for the perfect cup of tea.


Five hundred years after Copernicus posited that the earth revolved around the sun, Dr Andrew Stapley of Loughborough University has demonstrated that it is better to pour the tea on top of the milk to avoid "denaturation" of milk proteins.

Warming the pot, using soft water and letting the tea brew for three minutes is also essential.

The news sparked instant controversy with Tony Benn, MP and veteran tea drinker, who poured scorned the findings.

After tasting the perfect cuppa, which he admitted was "very tasty, delicious", he said: "I take [George] Orwell's view - you put the tea in first, then you know how much milk you need to put in to get exactly the right colour."

Received social wisdom also holds that tea should go in first.

The study, for the Royal College of Chemistry, recommends loose-leaf Assam tea and water at 60-65°C to avoid "vulgar slurping".

Dr Stapley said that degrading the milk proteins by pouring the tea in first caused a stale taste.

The news followed research from China that showed drinking tea could help to reduce cholesterol levels by an average of 16 per cent.

Mr Benn said the tearoom was his favourite part of the House of Commons and a frequent haunt of his during his 51-year political career.

He claims he drinks 10 pints of the liquid a day and has, therefore, drunk a total of 219,000 pints over his lifetime.

"When things are very stressful, if somebody says what we need is a cup of tea, my heart overflows with joy," he said.

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We ought to declare a national holiday in honour of Dr. Andrew Stapely. Let bunting hang from every home in the land!

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Jeezus. 10 pints a day?

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yeah, they had the bloke who did this important research on the today program, of course he then refused to say what made the perfect cup of tea, which was a bit of an anti-climax but there you go.

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And with this last great mystery solved, the curtain closes on the field of science.

There is simply nothing more we can possibly learn.

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Tony Benn is a reknowned eccentric, so I wouldn't be too surprised if it were true.

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Hmm... Once I actually experimented with making tea, and decided that milk in first produced a less scalded flavour and better tase. Judging the right amount of milk is down to practise.

Mind you, this research ignores the most important point of teamaking - if you want the best brew, use looseleaf tea.

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christ where were you dragged up from! first the tea then the milk, to do otherwise is just wrong

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It's been known for ages that milk first is better, because the milk has time to warm up with the hot water being poured in afterwards. I did it just this morning at work.

I never drink tea tho, I only did today coz there is only tea and coffee and it is very very cold this morning, so I needed a quick hot drink.

Truth is, tea and coffee are crappy drinks. But you won't hear a tea or coffee fanatic ever say that (and there's lots of them!)

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How about doing it like civilised people and not bothering with milk...

Though with PG Tips I can see why you'd need milk.

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I always thought Tony Benn believed that proper tea was theft.

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The best tea is poured over ice and served with sugar and lemon.

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christ where were you dragged up from! first the tea then the milk, to do otherwise is just wrong


Yes, but I thought I'd see which actually made the best cuppa rather than blindly following ritual.

Parents are occasionally economical with the truth - or at least don't reality test enough.

As to where I was brought up - same place you were. And no, I don't mean London.

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You mean that wasn't an Onion article?

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I always thought Tony Benn believed that proper tea was theft.


Boo.

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Jeezus. 10 pints a day?


Sounds like my coffee / espresso intake.

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Mind you, this research ignores the most important point of teamaking - if you want the best brew, use looseleaf tea.


Nah, it covered all the bases.

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It is all very well to say use soft water but around here you get what the water company pumps down the pipe. Sometimes it is soft, sometimes hard (resist the temptation - we've all heard all those jokes before ).

Personally, I'm going to carry on making tea the way I like it and I don't care for being told by a scientist that there is a "proper" way. I wonder who funded this excercise in pointlessness anyway?

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Nah, it covered all the bases.


Fair enough Urban. They did recommend loose leaf.

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Given today's practice of slapping a teabag into the mug and then pouring over the boiling water to let it brew, the milk is gonna be shoved in last anyway.

Loose tea and teapots ? Ah the quaint old ways often had a lot going for 'em

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You almost could not find loose leaf tea (i.e. English red tea) anymore.

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You almost could not find loose leaf tea (i.e. English red tea) anymore.


In a shop, maybe.

On the Web, I doubt it.

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Most shops here don't have that anymore. Just bland old tea bags.

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I tried something along what they reportedly suggested, and it was nice, though I think I overdid it with the milk.

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So...how does one limit the brewing time to three minutes, in a teapot, with loose leaf tea?

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How about doing it like civilised people and not bothering with milk...




I also agree with looseleaf tea, I had the privilege of sampling some for the first time just the other day. Heavenly!

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looseleaf tea is great. those paper bags leech the paper flavor into the tea.

any chance that this type of tea will be used in the infinite improbability drives?

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