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Asheville, NC
May 1999
time: 00:29
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Bush Plan May Cut Overtime for Millions
By LEIGH STROPE, AP Labor Writer
WASHINGTON - More than 8 million professionals would lose their overtime pay under a Bush administration proposal to change the types of jobs that must receive more money for extra work, says a study by a union-supported think tank.
The analysis being released Thursday by the Economic Policy Institute is among the first to assess how many workers might be affected by the Labor Department (news - web sites)'s revisions to the overtime rules, which were proposed in March.
Businesses and labor unions agree that the current Fair Labor Standards Act regulations are confusing and antiquated. But they disagree about how to update them.
The Labor Department estimated that under its proposal, at least 644,000 well-paid, white-collar workers would lose overtime pay for working more than 40 hours a week, while 1.3 million lower-wage workers now exempt from overtime would become eligible, or must receive a raise.
Overall, nearly 22 million workers could be affected, though specific jobs and their status could not be determined, officials said.
But the institute says the department "woefully underestimates" the changes that would occur if the proposal is implemented.
In 78 job classifications that the group examined out of 257 white-collar occupations, an estimated 8 million workers would lose their right to overtime pay.
Another 1.3 million people would lose overtime pay under the proposed salary test that exempts all nonmanual workers earning $65,000 or more, regardless of their duties.
The new definitions of professional, administrative and executive employees remove specific duties and education requirements, giving employers wide latitude to reclassify their workers, the study says.
Among the millions of jobs that will lose overtime, according to the study: emergency medical technicians, paralegals, licensed practical nurses, draftsmen, surveyors, reporters, editors, chefs, cooks, dental hygienists and health technicians.
Workers covered by union contracts will not be affected.
Labor Department officials say the changes renew the focus on low-wage earners, which the law was intended to protect. Business groups long have complained that the convoluted rules require overtime pay for already well-compensated and highly skilled professionals while ignoring those at the bottom.
Monday is the last day to submit comments on the proposal. |
I guess this means more work and no pay. 
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Cruddy
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That's not slavery - that's a wage cut. Quite often in an "economic downturn" AKA a recession.
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Az
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MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000
time: 07:29
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I really don't see the reason in making people work overtime, at all. why not measure people's job according to what they did, and not how much time they spent doing it?
Last edited by Az on 27-06-2003 at 01:41
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Cruddy
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quote:
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The whole purpose of overtime is to prevent bosses from violating the 8-hour day. If you want more work, get a second job! |
You lucky, lucky Yanks. Over here pretty soon it will be illegal to work over 48 hours per week unless you are self employed.
What happens? All the low paid workers get told they are now self employed and have to sort out their own tax and national insurance (national health scheme payment).
Result? A lot of "workers" actually do 60 hours. Some junior doctors actually do 65+.
It's not like they get paid huge amounts for doing it.
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:29
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proteus, you set goals and deadlines. Then with experience you can estimate how long it would take and not the '24/7, no breaks, fast pace' way, but you include possible problems that take more time, and that people are not machines. Realistical estimates.
Then you chop it to pieces, and set smaller goals that ultimately lead to bigger goal. That way you can estimate how much work should be done personally in one day or week, or so. If you complete it, good, you have worked enough for your position in this place, get out, go home. If not, then you do overtime. But it comes down to the estimates, and how realistical they are, and what different variables there are in the game (problems, things you can't really estimate).
So, I think how much person works is not about time, or how physical it is, or how much you have walked in the office. It's about getting the goals you have set, and finishing them in time.
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Proteus_MST
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quote:
Originally posted by Pekka
proteus, you set goals and deadlines. Then with experience you can estimate how long it would take and not the '24/7, no breaks, fast pace' way, but you include possible problems that take more time, and that people are not machines. Realistical estimates.
Then you chop it to pieces, and set smaller goals that ultimately lead to bigger goal. That way you can estimate how much work should be done personally in one day or week, or so. If you complete it, good, you have worked enough for your position in this place, get out, go home. If not, then you do overtime. But it comes down to the estimates, and how realistical they are, and what different variables there are in the game (problems, things you can't really estimate).
So, I think how much person works is not about time, or how physical it is, or how much you have walked in the office. It's about getting the goals you have set, and finishing them in time. |
Yes, that works for many jobs,
but there is also a number of jobs where this is very difficult to implement.
For example my Father is Human Resources Director. The work in the Department of Human Resources involves a lot of Routine work which just can´t divided into certain projects (like "Fire Person A and hire Person B"), for example the administration of Health Insurances, or to assign personnell to different Places of work, but also to cope with a lot of unexpected events, for example Personnel which gets injured and the like.
There is also a lot of work which is dependend on Inputs from other Departments.
One Example:
Every month the workers get a printout with informations about hours worked, money earned and of course how much money was retained for taxes, Health Insurance and the like (and Copies of thise Printouts are also kept within the files for every single worker).
Printing is done in the IT-Department, as well as certain other things which are important for the Payroll administration.
And after printing the numbers on Printouts are checked in the Department of Human Ressources.
So there are a lot of steps which could delay those printouts as there are a lot of people involved.
And it would be very difficult, maybe impossible to calculate those delays, as every single Person within the IT-Department also has other fields of work (after all there are a lot of Computers which have to be maintained) and there is no single person who just manages the Printout of those Payroll Informations.
So I think this Project/Goal Oriented Measurement may be applicable to some jobs, but it isn´t applicable for all.
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27-06-2003 00:11
Clinton's presidency, as a whole, I would consider good. Despite what problems there were, our country was better off in 2000 than in 1992. Bush's presidency has been a disaster. The economy has gone from bad to bad, he's seriously ****ed up in the middle east, and now we're stuck in Iraq for probably the next 20 years. I only pray that Howard Dean gets into office.
to Bush then. This should be a matter to be decided by the States.
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