28-06-2003 01:53									#1
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Everyone:

I'm so pleased right now. I've dropped 45 pounds since October and my blood pressure has dropped with those pounds as well. Also, my blood glucose numbers are doing awesome. The doctor went so far as to even say I was one of his model patients.

And you know what really makes me happy? *All* of this is due to a simple *lifestyle* change — IOW, eating a healthier diet and getting some sort of exercise (generally riding my stationary bike or walking two to four miles) every day. No damn drugs needed!

If I can do, so can you, my fellow 'Poly posters!

Gatekeeper

	28-06-2003 01:57									#2
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Congrats !

I really should exercize more and eat better too, but my situation isn't bad enough for me to be motivated

	28-06-2003 02:00									#3
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congrats!!

I am trying to lose weight and get fit again (I stopped for about 6 months)

when I am not trying to get fit or lose weght I eat decently and walk (or ride a bike) well over 2 miles a day (usually well over 4)

doing this I gained 20 pounds in 6 months

to lose pounds I have to lift weights and do fairly heavy exercise (As well as eat little)

I don't like my body

Jon Miller

	28-06-2003 02:03									#4
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My doctor visits usually culminate in him or her questioning my sexuality.

	28-06-2003 02:06									#5
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Jon, may I ask, what's your weight, and what's your height?

Gatekeeper, could you spare your time and tell the same info from your body, also?

	28-06-2003 02:09									#6
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I am 5'11" and am currently ~190 lbs

I was down to 170 lbs last december and was up to 194 at the start of this week

Jon Miller

	28-06-2003 02:10									#7
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 My doctor visits usually culminate in him or her questioning my sexuality.

my doctor has never done so with me

I will be having a new doctor for the first time in 10ish years next time I go to the doctor though

Jon Miller

	28-06-2003 02:12									#8
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When I tell them I am a virgin they say "what're you, some kind of füking fĺggot???"... Is this normal?

	28-06-2003 02:13									#9
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hmm

I never tell my doctor that I am a virgin

and I would hope that it is not normal

Jon Miller

	28-06-2003 02:22									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Gatekeeper, could you spare your time and tell the same info from your body, also?

Hmm ... let's just say I'm still larger than I should be, but I am 6'4" tall.

I'm taking the "lifestyle-change" approach to losing weight and increasing my longevity, rather than the crash or fad dieting that so many people seem to use. The doc says my approach is the best one, as it allows the body to gradually (and naturally) lose weight w/o the risk that comes with sudden weight loss (which often translates into the pounds coming right back when someone goes off such a diet).

Gatekeeper

(Who's now off to walk two miles on the bike path, which follows a meandering stream through town and goes near a park, through wooded areas, and parallels a huge "village green" that's used for soccer.)

	28-06-2003 02:28									#11
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awesome congrats

my shape goes in cycles of awesome to decent shape depending on the seasons and my mood... I never have the will power to stay in awesome shape, but all i know is i never feel better or more confident than when I can run faster and longer than most anyone i see walking down the street... I just hope i dont fall into a slump and gain weight rampantly or get heart problems or high blood pressure or somethn

	28-06-2003 02:36									#12
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In four months I lost 8 kilos, just from quit working and start studying again... When I worked I tought I lived healthy, biking to work every day and eating regulary... Now, always eating burgers and pizzas and drinking alcohol 3 out of 5 nights (cause I had nothing better to do, and the food at the pub was great) wasn´t as healthy as I tought. As student I never got money to buy fast food, I gotta make my own food and seldom got time to go out partying - its sad, but that made me a more healthy person...

	28-06-2003 02:36									#13
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Bunnygrrl and I start working out again on Monday. I'm forcing her to come up with a nutrition and health plan for herself and I'm gonna make her stick to it. We were gonna start two weeks ago, but she got sick and has been sick. She's better now, but I want to let her recover fully.

	28-06-2003 02:37									#14
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Jon -- > 180 cm, 86 kg... sounds pretty healthy to me. Perhaps not 'in fit', but nothing to get stressed about. If I'd be you, I'd just continue the 5-mile walking / jogging, eat well, and not to worry until your weight passes 200 lbs.

Gatekeeper -- > Yeah, those methods are easy to agree with paper, but tend to get surprisingly hard when trying to fulfill in real life. Don't get depressed (or quit) if you'll temporary gain few pounds, the most important challenge to most seems to keep up with their excercises regularly, if they don't see the results immediately.

	28-06-2003 02:58									#15
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Hey Che, if she doesn't stick to it will you... spank her?

	28-06-2003 03:07									#16
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If you're looking to boost your metabolism, weightlifting is great too. I lost about 6 pounds of Labatts anchored around my mid-section by pumping iron alone.

jac

	28-06-2003 03:39									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Gatekeeper -- > Yeah, those methods are easy to agree with paper, but tend to get surprisingly hard when trying to fulfill in real life.

True, but it also helps when you put it in perspective and, even better, *enjoy* doing it. Especially when walking, I use that time to meditate and commune, more or less, with my surroundings. There's a surprisingingly large number of wildlife near the trail, and the stream is full of fish, ducks and turtles. It's all very relaxing.

quote: Don't get depressed (or quit) if you'll temporary gain few pounds, the most important challenge to most seems to keep up with their excercises regularly, if they don't see the results immediately.

Heh. I make a point of *not* weighing myself compulsively, so that shouldn't be a problem. In fact, I usually only get weighed when in the doctor's office for my regular checkups.

Gatekeeper

	28-06-2003 03:42									#18
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Bunnygrrl and I start working out again on Monday. I'm forcing her to come up with a nutrition and health plan for herself and I'm gonna make her stick to it. ...

One thing to keep in mind is this: You can cheat, and *should* cheat somewhat when it comes to stuff like that. Folks who try to stick to a given plan with absolutely *no* deviation are more likely to fail in the long run, and fail hard.

I've found that I can eat out three or four times a week so long as I get exercise every day and make sure to "budget" the days when I'm eating out. IOW, I eat less during meals before and after when eating out. That, plus exercise and overall improved metabolism, evens out for the "extra" stuff I take in when eating out.

Gatekeeper

	28-06-2003 03:44									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Jac de Molay If you're looking to boost your metabolism, weightlifting is great too. I lost about 6 pounds of Labatts anchored around my mid-section by pumping iron alone. jac

Eventually I'd like to add weight-training to my repertoire. Right now I'm sticking mostly with walking and using my stationary bike, which is one of those models that works *both* your legs and arms for a complete cardiovascular workout. I also lift the occasional 5- and 10-pound arm weights.

Gatekeeper

	28-06-2003 03:48									#20
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Jon Miller:

Heh. I took a bit of a break from the stationary bike during the week I had vacation *and* my 10-year class reunion, but kept on walking. So I'm not perfect, either, when it comes to maintaining a regimen, but do try. The old saying, "To be human is to err," applies here. (Or is it vice-vera? "To err is to be human.")

Gatekeeper

	28-06-2003 03:53									#21
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It's not that hard if you really have the right methods. Congrats!! Sounds like you did it the right way.

Eat healthy, but you can eat some heavy stuff too if you move a lot. Just remember to run, swim, bike and go to gym to work with the weights on daily basis. If you take it seriously enough, you can start getting that tom cruise upper body soon. Everyday for 2 hours is good, if you have the time. 1 hour should be minimum.. but you can take a day off every now adn then..

Then start going to shooting ranges and go with the 9 mm hand guns. Know them even with your eyes closed. Then learn your assault rifles. They're your babies. Treat them better than women and little babies. Get used to carry 60 pounds on your back, run and crawl with it.
Shave your head, no one likes hippies. Learn self defence, Krav Maga is recommended. Try to find someone who teaches you the military version, which is better. Go for the eyes, son!

Remember that you must be ready at all times, learn to control the space that you are in. Start hunting animals, so you can get some experience on camoflaguing yourself and shooting something living, that moves fast.
Learn how to prepare it. Master your combat knife. Ka-Bar knives are pretty good. Get yourself super fit.
Order every single magazine that has to do with military.
Contact people that have been in wars. Valuable information there. Ask for advices etc.

Watch lots of news, and possible heated situation. Travel there, country next to it, if it's safe and stable. Use someone elses name than yours. Bring your own clothes, knives and everything you need, except guns and ammo. Cross the border what seems to be the weakest spot. Speak english, and hope they don't understand too much. Just keep talking. Have a camera with you, and explain you're a photographer and you're here to cover the conflict. Don't express your political views under any circumtances. Have a fake press card too. Cross the border safely, and look for recruiters. Check out bars, but don't get yourself drunk. Young men knows aobut this stuff, they're good to ask. Make sure you give them the 'I'll kill you if you betray me'-look and act tough. Once you find the recruiters, you can drop the tough act, but don't look like a ***** either.

And then, you're set!

	28-06-2003 09:19									#22
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Congrats Gatekeeper you are now a role model for others. You should be proud of your accomplishment.

	28-06-2003 10:17									#23
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Pekka:

I think I'll just settle for some exercise and a proper eating lifestyle for now. But, hey, it never hurts to think long-term!

Gatekeeper

	28-06-2003 10:21									#24
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Ted Striker, et al.:

Thanks for the compliments.

I guess I was left with one question after the doctor called me one of his role model patients: Namely, why? All I've been doing is getting some sort of physical activity every day and eating healthier more often than I ever did prior to October 2002. It just makes me wonder that, if I'm a role model for doing seemingly so little, how little are some of his other patients doing to take control of their health?

I suppose a number of them just go on drugs and leave it at that, but I'm really leery of becoming dependent on any *outside* source for my health. Hence my attitude that if change is going to come, *I'm* going to be the one doing it, not some drugs.

Gatekeeper

	28-06-2003 10:29									#25
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Gatekeeper, no it doesn't hurt, and you never know if you get the urge to go. I suggest you buy those knives and some other accessories right away, so you're set and ready to go right away if you feel like it. Just to be sure.

	28-06-2003 11:01									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Ted Striker, et al.: Thanks for the compliments. I guess I was left with one question after the doctor called me one of his role model patients: Namely, why? All I've been doing is getting some sort of physical activity every day and eating healthier more often than I ever did prior to October 2002. It just makes me wonder that, if I'm a role model for doing seemingly so little, how little are some of his other patients doing to take control of their health? I suppose a number of them just go on drugs and leave it at that, but I'm really leery of becoming dependent on any *outside* source for my health. Hence my attitude that if change is going to come, *I'm* going to be the one doing it, not some drugs. Gatekeeper

The way today's American society is built, it takes an extraordinary amount of effort to live healthy. Living healthy just isn't "built-in" to our lifestyle. So you have to step outside of it and make the extra effort.

I think that's why so many fail.

I am glad to see that many schools are now banning soda machines in the cafeterias, for example. That's removing some of that "built-in" unhealthiness.

	28-06-2003 12:11									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker The way today's American society is built, it takes an extraordinary amount of effort to live healthy. Living healthy just isn't "built-in" to our lifestyle. So you have to step outside of it and make the extra effort. I think that's why so many fail.

True. And it doesn't help any that most of the jobs nowadays are office jobs where folks generally don't have the opportunity to burn energy physically (although I understand that some of the non-physical jobs are *mentally* challenging, which forces the brain to use more energy — i.e., glucose — thus somewhat compensating for very little to no exercise).

quote: I am glad to see that many schools are now banning soda machines in the cafeterias, for example. That's removing some of that "built-in" unhealthiness.

Yep. Another step would be to reintroduce *mandatory* PE classes for all grade levels. Hell, I had a blast playing dodgeball during my PE days ...

Gatekeeper

	29-06-2003 00:51									#28
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quote: Ka-Bar knives are pretty good.

very good knives Got my first one a few years ago... Ive put it thru hell and back and it has still kept its edge, tho a sharpening wouldnt hurt at this point...

quote: Yep. Another step would be to reintroduce *mandatory* PE classes for all grade levels. Hell, I had a blast playing dodgeball during my PE days ...

same here! dodge ball was an awesome game. Fortunately my school system kept the mandatory PE/athletics classes thru 7th grade and put a moderate emphasis on sports, so many people stayed active beyond then.
I was shocked when I read it was not uncommon now for many elementary schools to only have PE 2 or 3 times a week! we went everyday, and had a nice long recess with all the cool jungle gym equipment, swings and monkey bars and stuff. A lot of schools now just spend recess in the classroom playing board games and puzzles and things