29-06-2003 21:47									#1
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This question is for anyone in any part of the world, not just American Democrats and American Republicans -- among the political leaders who follow the opposite ideology that you agree with, who do you respect the most?

Or, with whom do you find yourself coming the closest to agreeing with partially? And why? It can be a contemporary political leader, or a historical one whose home is the graveyard.

As for me -- I'm not sure. I have to think about it some more.

	29-06-2003 21:49									#2
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On some things, Tony Blair. For instance, his approach to Europe.

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There are some things I like about John McCain.

1. He knows Bush lied about Iraq and is trying to get an investigation
2. He hates corporate criminals and wants to prosecute them.
3. He wants better campaign finance reform to prevent corporate money from running Washington

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Why would you respect Tony Blair?

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the chinese guys...

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quote: Why would you respect Tony Blair?

You're talking to Bodds, mind you.

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mr khatami too.

napoleon

	29-06-2003 21:52									#8
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I like sen. Lugar, he always sounds very sensible.

	29-06-2003 21:55									#9
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Jesus.

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"Why would you respect Tony Blair?"

A man of honesty and not afraid to do what he feels is right even if people are against him.

	29-06-2003 21:58									#11
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McCain, same reasons as Sava.

	29-06-2003 21:59									#12
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George W. Bush, to be honest

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Thanks for the opinions, but I thought there would be more elaboration.

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From History: Napoleon.

These days: In Israel: ... ahh, you don't know them anyway, who cares.

In Russia: Putin.

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Bismarck - He took real efforts to solve the problems his political enemies addressed. Most of the social security system in Germany is still based on his reforms.

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Bismark, indeed. ( he did create a force that was cause of the bloodiest wars in history, but that's a wholly different debate. )

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Azazel, thats only half true. The foundation of Prussia's militarism is being pissed of by Swedes and French during and after the 30 years war. Bismarck was one of the smartest builders of the force. Then, Wilhelm II lost sense for realitites ...

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None of 'em. I don't even like the ones on my side.

	30-06-2003 02:03									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's "Why would you respect Tony Blair?" A man of honesty and not afraid to do what he feels is right even if people are against him.

Woo democracy. :ironicdance:

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's "Why would you respect Tony Blair?" A man of honesty and not afraid to do what he feels is right even if people are against him.

closet socialist

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OK, Bismarck, but then I agree with him a lot

Putin, too

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myself for being the smartest guy in a sphere with a radius of 2 metres around the center of my body
and I disagree a lot with that idiot

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of course an Austrian could never agree with Bismarck.

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Historical:

Stalin. He took an almost feudal patchwork of peoples decimated by two vicious wars and in the span of years forged a nation that was for a time at the pinacle of development and the leader in space. Amazing guy. But utterly ruthless.

Today:

McCain. Almost reasonable for a Republican. Discovered the whole money = corruption thing in politics (after his own involvement with Keating though ).

Jesse Ventura: too libertarian for me, but gave a voice to the coalition of fed up people in MN. Did crazy stuff, and was a giant **** in the face of the political establishment.

Fidel Castro: amazing what that guy does with nothing.

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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion of course an Austrian could never agree with Bismarck.

huh

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quote: Originally posted by The Templar Jesse Ventura: was a giant **** in the face of the political establishment.

That is why we liked him.

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who is Jesse Ventura?

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quote: I like sen. Lugar, he always sounds very sensible.

Who doesn't respect Dick Lugar? The man's very name makes me respect the hell out of him.

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Fidel Castro. Despite numerous assassination attempts and old age the guy is still running Cuba.

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Historical: Count Camillo de Cavour. I have so much respect for a guy who with almost nothing to offer, and little to work with, but managed to all but run the government as the lowest ranked minister, getting concessions out of the French and Austrians. He was skillful enough to take all of Northern Italy by diplomatic skill. An absolute genius, from a time when people borrowed Britains progressive and before-their-time policies.

Today: I respect Alistair Campbell for managing to convince the nation to back Blair, when they disagree with most things that he says. Most of the politicians I respect I agree with though, like Joshka Fischer, who manages to have the only Green Party I've ever heard of that has offical power on a national scale. A massive acheivement, considering the UK Green Party can't even win 1 seat.