30-06-2003 03:33									#1
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In May 2001, we bought a new TV for the living room: a Sony WEGA XBR400 36". It cost us $3500CDN at the time.

It was HDTV capable, excellent picture quality, etc.

We thought it'd be good for many years, because Sony supposedly is of quite good quality for electronics.

Well, here we are now, June 29th, 2003, with an expensive, heavy (~250lbs) TV and a warranty that expired in May 2003.

And the display is ****ed. The top-left of the screen usually has an onscreen display thing that shows the current video mode (TV, DTV, DVD, etc) that's usually bright green in color. And now, it's blue but slowly fades into cyan near the bottom corner of the label.

I thought it may have just changed the setting somehow inadvertently, but I couldn't find any settings. And the menu itself on the TV looked different, I can't explain it really because I can't remember the old one, but the colors looked off.

So I tried booting up the Xbox to see if it was just the video connector on the digital cable box, but the Xbox also looked screwed up. The colors in the games were all noticably off, including some tie-die styled backgrounds that should be blueish...

Grrr!!

Are these things engineered to self-destruct after their warranty period?

	30-06-2003 03:34									#2
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That happened with my TV when I placed my speakers too close to it. You haven't put any devices that generate magnetic fields close to it, have you?

	30-06-2003 03:35									#3
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None at all, we've had the same setup unchanged since the week we bought it...

	30-06-2003 03:41									#4
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maybe all your raging about apple created an EMP field so strong that it destroyed the tv

	30-06-2003 03:45									#5
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Your X-box probably has a secret function that destroys any products made by Microsoft's rival Sony. Seems like something Billy and Co. would do.

	30-06-2003 03:47									#6
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Watch out Bob Hope, you've got some competition!!!!

	30-06-2003 03:49									#7
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Bob Hope was the best comedian you could think of? You're a weird guy, Dave.

	30-06-2003 03:50									#8
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No, he's one of the worst. Why do you think I chose him?

	30-06-2003 03:54									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Asher No, he's one of the worst. Why do you think I chose him?

	30-06-2003 03:58									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Your X-box probably has a secret function that destroys any products made by Microsoft's rival Sony. Seems like something Billy and Co. would do.

Actually, I take that back. This can be quite funny!

	30-06-2003 04:00									#11
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Please don't tell me you sat there and recorded yourself saying that.

	30-06-2003 04:01									#12
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No, I used a stock clip from the internet...

	30-06-2003 04:04									#13
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i was taught that many companies do statistical analysis on their products, to see when the breakdown point for most of em are, and then set the warranty expiration date to shortly before that. Statistically, they know they will have to fork out for some products that are extraneous and break down early, but most break down after that point. And of course they go thru all this trouble to begin with because i product that has a waranty of somekind is initially much more attarctive to the layman than a competing product that doesnt have a warranty.

	30-06-2003 04:09									#14
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quote: No, he's one of the worst. Why do you think I chose him?

He's done pretty well for a "bad" comedian. Most performers would love being revered as a national treasure.

	30-06-2003 04:10									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten He's done pretty well for a "bad" comedian. Most performers would love being revered as a national treasure.

Replace "treasure" with "turd" and you've got yourself a winner.

If Bob Hope is a funny comedian, perhaps this is by American comedic standards.

	30-06-2003 04:13									#16
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can anyone else see avatars? or were they just disabled for me since i was banned?

	30-06-2003 04:20									#17
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glad I didn't buy an hdtv yet.

The technology is still not proven in my view. This is a good example.

	30-06-2003 04:21									#18
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It's because you were banned. Post your complaint to this thread. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=90521

	30-06-2003 04:23									#19
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INSTALL LInUX ON YOUR TV THAT WILL FIX EVERYTHING

	30-06-2003 04:24									#20
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quote: The technology is still not proven in my view. This is a good example.

I don't see how this proves HDTV isn't proven!

	30-06-2003 04:27									#21
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Could it be that the SONY playstation II is competition for the MICROSOFT xbox??

	30-06-2003 04:30									#22
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because a tv from a name brand company shouldn't do that!

I bet you this isn't the first case.

No way I'm going to spend over $1000 for something that can't last over 5 years at least.

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quote: Originally posted by elijah Could it be that the SONY playstation II is competition for the MICROSOFT xbox??

Not REAL competition.....

	30-06-2003 04:36									#24
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Asher, that type of distortion is usually caused by a magnetic field, as Paul Hanson described. Also, speaker wiring and/or electrical wiring in walls, or even certain kinds of metal support beams can interfere and distort the TV picture. If you don't have any speaker near the TV, I can't begin to postulate what the problem might be. We've got a 36inch Sony Vega Flat-Screen TV. When I wired some of my 12 inch JL Audio car woofers to our system, I noticed the distortion. Positioning the speakers at certain angles and distances got rid of the effect. But as you said, you don't have speakers or strong woofers nearby.

	30-06-2003 04:38									#25
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did you try degaussing?

check your manual about that though

I don't think they are real expensive. There are small degausers- actually they may be called magnetic tape erasers- but they have the same function.

I misread the problem the first time. So I was *****ing about HDTV's. Really the only thing I don't like is the price


There's a good chance degaussing will do the trick.

	30-06-2003 04:41									#26
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quote: because a tv from a name brand company shouldn't do that!

So when CRTs from Sony break down (and they do, btw), do you say that CRT technology is unproven?

quote: No way I'm going to spend over $1000 for something that can't last over 5 years at least.

It'll last 5 years and over... unless something strange happens. If this were the norm, you'd think you'd hear about it more often .

	30-06-2003 04:43									#27
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Oh man that sucks.. you had only 2 year warranty? My dad just bought a new tv, and it has 6 year warranty, and paying little extra he could of had 10 year warranty.. Usually tvs here come with at least 3 year warranty..

	30-06-2003 04:43									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Grrr!! Are these things engineered to self-destruct after their warranty period?

Yes

All consumer goods are designed that way... if stuff was designed to last there'd be no opportunity to buy sell the suckers (oops, I mean customers) a new model.

Why do you think Rolls Royce has a lifetime warranty and other car makers don't?

Not that I like cars of any description... I could rant and rave about the snearky tricks hardware manufacturers pull... I must be STRONG and RESIST the temptation...

EDIT: I would say it is VERY LIKELY that a competent TV tech could sort out... the problem is getting the TV to the tech or the tech to the TV.

	30-06-2003 04:44									#29
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actually I take that back.

I'm willing to bet degaussing will fix the screen. HDTV's may be more sensitive to magnetic fields or something.

	30-06-2003 05:09									#30
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I fixed it.

I unplugged it, roared loudly at it and stomped, and went to dinner.

When I got home, I plugged it in to show my brother what was wrong with it, and the problem was gone. He called me a dumbass and hit me. :/