02-07-2003 03:18									#31
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It's just selling it that is banned

	02-07-2003 03:19									#32
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I don't understand why. You can't get lung cancer from it, and no one has ever been harmed by passive "snusing"

	02-07-2003 03:19									#33
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That makes more sense.. I bet you're right.

edit: also I agree with you. 'snusing' is not healthy, but at least there are no innocent bystanders who has to suffer from it. Also you can do it indoors, no smoke etc..
So, if people want to do that, I can't see any reasons why laws should stop it.

	02-07-2003 03:24									#34
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You can get throat, lip, or tongue cnacer from smokeless tabbaco.

	02-07-2003 03:24									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I have another story though this one happened to a friend of mine who went on vacation in Turkey. Apparently Turkish bathrooms don't have any toilet paper in them and instead they have an old man who sits by the door and sells you liquid soap after you have used your bare hand to wipe your rear. :barf: My friend didn't know this so he went in took a dump and then had to whip his behind with his hat (which he then left in the pit toilet) because he couldn't find anything else to use. Talk about a weird custom; I mean **** tickets (toilet paper) only cast a penny for a dozen or so sheets. Talk about cheap.

Actually Turkish toilets all have built in water jets at the back which wash your arse and is operated by a tap underneath and this is where the soap comes in and then you dry your arse...actually when you think of it, it is considerably more hygienic than toilet roll...

	02-07-2003 03:32									#36
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Don't you have those in europe? We have something similar as well. It's like a small shower, that you use to wash.

You still have to use the paper to dry it.

	02-07-2003 03:33									#37
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quote: You can get throat, lip, or tongue cnacer from smokeless tabbaco.

While that may be true for other kinds of smokeless tobacco, they've actually removed the "causes cancer" warnings from the snus boxes because it couldn't be proved. It still says it's bad for your health though.

	02-07-2003 03:36									#38
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Gangerolf, and as it doesn't hurt others, I see no problems and I think there should be no laws forbidding you to do it. It's your own fault if you then have cancer because of using it. But then again, I have the right to do it in here, but I just have to come to Sweden to buy it... so.. I guess they're kind of doing the right thing.

Azazel, hey we have only nice clean toilets! Toilets are sometimes funny in foreign places as I have used to nice toilets.. then in some countries there can be just a hole in the floor and you're supposed to do your business there? Nice!

	02-07-2003 03:42									#39
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I know that the european public toilets are good. Israel's have been getting better, as well, lately. I am talking about appartments, do you have this little shower near the water tank?

"Whole in the ground" reminds me of Cairo airport.

	02-07-2003 03:45									#40
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Azazel, No? At least not here where I live. I don't know what you're talking about, dude you must have been travelling all over Moscow ghettos or something.

I still remember the airport toilet in Hania, Greece.. there were too separate stand up thingies you pee in. They were so close together that when a big man and a smaller guy were pissing the same time, the bigger guy was pushing the smaller guy accidentally because it was so small . And yes, the big guy was American

	02-07-2003 03:46									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Actually Turkish toilets all have built in water jets at the back which wash your arse and is operated by a tap underneath and this is where the soap comes in and then you dry your arse...actually when you think of it, it is considerably more hygienic than toilet roll...

My friend was in the Air Force and was stationed in Inkirlik (spelling?) which is in the eastern portion of Turkey. Not exactly in a major tourist area so I imagine the local standards are below that of say Istanbul.

	02-07-2003 03:48									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Gangerolf, and as it doesn't hurt others, I see no problems and I think there should be no laws forbidding you to do it. It's your own fault if you then have cancer because of using it. But then again, I have the right to do it in here, but I just have to come to Sweden to buy it... so.. I guess they're kind of doing the right thing. Azazel, hey we have only nice clean toilets! Toilets are sometimes funny in foreign places as I have used to nice toilets.. then in some countries there can be just a hole in the floor and you're supposed to do your business there? Nice!

Oh god, those holes in the floor Now when I am on a normal toilet and I go for a number two, I automatically number one at the same time, it's kind of like habitual. But when I was in France in Abbeville, I went to the toilet to have a number two but it was a hole, so I had to prop myself up against the wall. Went and did a number one as well and pissed all over my trousers I learnt a valuable lesson about hole-in-floor toilets that day

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Azazel, I've never seen that problem you're describing. But then again it might be that I just don't remember and here in Finland we don't have any problems with water supplies, as we have too much water anyway. So those sound unfamiliar. But I don't know how it is in other countries, but I think in Northern Europe and Scandinavia you won't find anything to complain.. about anything!11111111 Because we rule.

	02-07-2003 03:49									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin My friend was in the Air Force and was stationed in Inkirlik (spelling?) which is in the eastern portion of Turkey. Not exactly in a major tourist area so I imagine the local standards are below that of say Istanbul.

Incirlik

	02-07-2003 03:50									#45
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The whole rural french "squat-over-a-hole-in-the-ground-whilst-having-a crap" kind of toilets has always held no appeal with me

First time i saw bbqed guinea pig in Ecuador was kinda funny too. Tastes like rabbit surprisingly

	02-07-2003 03:51									#46
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Pekka, so you don't wash your ass?

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quote: I am talking about appartments, do you have this little shower near the water tank?

ofcourse not. You just use paper. And PH, I don't think they have these high tech things in Turkey, but I am sure they have them in Japan. It washes your ass automagicaly.

Oerdin, that is why muslims take it as offense if you use your left hand to greet them, or hand something to them... it is the ass wiping hand

	02-07-2003 03:56									#48
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PH, hey we're kind of the same then. When I go to number two I always get number one too! I feel like we're really bonding..

I have mastered different styles of pooping in the woods when I was in the army. They're great fun . My favourite style is the 'bear hug' as I don't like squatting.
If we haven't had the time to fix a place for pooping in the woods, then you just have to wing it. I always carried my extra belt (as I had my officers belt [sgt.s had them woohoo] and my normal belt), so I'd make one big belt out of these two smaller belts. Then I'd rap it around a tree, and just loosen my knees a bit and bend back.. just lay back, the belt will keep you from not falling on your back. Now you are chilling, pooping and looking cool at the same time.

Or you can do the 'simple bear style', lean in to the tree with your back facing the tree, jsut like the bears rub their backs on trees to mark the spots. Get yourself to sitting position, but it's not that hard because you're leaning on the tree so you're legs won't have to work so hard.

I'm a proud master of many different pooping styles and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

	02-07-2003 03:57									#49
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Azazel, HELL NO! What's that? I thought the french do it? I like to wipe my butt with toilet paper thank you very much.

.. in the woods though if you are stupid and not carrying extra teepee.. it's cool to use leaves and stuff like that, but it's horrible if you have the runs and there are not so much leaves around you

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	02-07-2003 03:59									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Pekka, so you don't wash your ass?

I think we established in another thread that Finns wipe their asses more then anybody else in Europe. Or at least they use more toilet paper then anyone else.

	02-07-2003 04:00									#52
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And I want to contribute some important info that could make the day for you. Don't eat yellow snow AND don't ever.. I mean EVER if you have to go pooping in the woods.. don't ever EVER poop on hill, or if you have to, make sure you're facing the uphill.. not downhill.

	02-07-2003 04:01									#53
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Leaves suck. It's like trying to wipe your ass with a plastic bag.

( don't ask )

The water isn't always used. but sometimes, it's VERY helpful. as someone said here: "It helps to get rid of Klingons. Think of it as an ass-phaser".

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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion quote: I am talking about appartments, do you have this little shower near the water tank? ofcourse not. You just use paper. And PH, I don't think they have these high tech things in Turkey, but I am sure they have them in Japan. It washes your ass automagicaly. Oerdin, that is why muslims take it as offense if you use your left hand to greet them, or hand something to them... it is the ass wiping hand

Vet: Yeah, but I still find it to be a disgusting and substandard way to live.

BTW Japan didn't have to many ass washers when I was there. Most of the newer places had western style sit down toilets but a few of the older places had the older Asian style toilet where you stand on top of it.

	02-07-2003 04:04									#55
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" don't eat yellow snow" I don't think you have to be a great outdoorsman to understand this.

	02-07-2003 04:06									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka And I want to contribute some important info that could make the day for you. Don't eat yellow snow AND don't ever.. I mean EVER if you have to go pooping in the woods.. don't ever EVER poop on hill, or if you have to, make sure you're facing the uphill.. not downhill.

You could always do the tried and true method of hugging a tree.

I live in California so I don't have to worry to much about snow, yellow or other wise.

	02-07-2003 04:06									#57
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About pooping in the wilderness, don't you just feel blessed when you have one of those arhm, hard and dry ones. No paper needed!

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Azazel, true.. leaves are not the best. The best is 'sammal', but I don't know what that is in english, or how to describe it. It's actually pretty good and comfortable feeling. But that's not a problem as I always carry extra teepee with me, because someone might need it and you can always use teepee from wiping your butt to doing emergency fix if you get wounded, temporarily. And in the winter times, you can use it to wipe sweat if you sweat because it's not good to sweat in cold, because later you will get super cold and freeze and DIE! So.. I like to carry extra teepee.

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Oerdin, yes, that is very simular to the 'bear hug', but instead of using your hands, you fix your belts so that you can relax and not use your hands. You see Oerdin, this is why I can call myself master of pooping because I already know the more advanced methods.

VetLegion, yep! It's a bless!

	02-07-2003 04:09									#60
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion About pooping in the wilderness, don't you just feel blessed when you have one of those arhm, hard and dry ones. No paper needed!

Eat more cereals.