02-07-2003 14:10									#1
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The movie was really good. They started showings at 8pm on 7/1 here

I have 2 questions about the last part of the series (if they decide to make it).

First: This movie is on a branching timeline, so who will win, humans or machine?

Second: How will Mostow finish the series? Will he show us one movie with a vague ending or two movies (the first one shows the gist of the battles, the second showing the conclusion).

If the machines win the war the series will be much better. If the humans win I feel it will be a generic ending. All humans should die! *cough*Matrix*cough*

Im betting on two more movies though I cant figure out how Arnold will be in the 4th one. Two 2 hr long movies is better than one 3 hr long, and it makes more profit.

	02-07-2003 14:14									#2
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branching timeline, even more confusing than back to the future 2? bah! I say.

	02-07-2003 14:18									#3
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Previewed it on 6-30-03 at about 11p.m.

Great flick. Lots of action. The scene with the car chase, truck, firetruck.. blah blah was fantastic.

Just a little tidbit of info... the stunt where Arnold was supposedly hanging on the crane and crashing through the building... was paid for by Arnold. It cost 1 million bucks. Now thats some serious fun money.

	02-07-2003 14:20									#4
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seen a preview/trailer in cinema before, looks fancy, when does it come out? is it already?

	02-07-2003 14:22									#5
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not as cool as back to the future 2 but there are soo man possiblities to Terminator.


heres how i figure it. The machines came from a random timeline somewhere along one of the branches. They implanted themselves into a new branch by sending a machine to the new timeline to kill sarah o conner cause in a previous timeline she was an important person in what may be the machines original timeline. The terminator is destroyed and the parts are discovered by the people who make skynet and the prototype machines. then t2 and t3 happens. Arnold says something (in t3) about what will happen near the end of the battle between humans and machines. He dies as expeted in t3. he leaves behind his remains. His remains tell the machines about a course of actions to be taken in the future to give the machines an advantage. Thus the humans who sent back the terminators to save the conners became the architect of their own demise Oh and we dont know who will win, arnold says what he has to to keep the conners alive.

	02-07-2003 14:24									#6
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BustaMike's review of T3:

T3, despite its aspirations to be better than or even as good as its predecessors, manages only to reach the pinacle of mediocrity. After watching it I couldn't decide whether or not it had been worth going, or even if I liked the movie. I give it a solid 5/10 and a resounding... eh. T3 dares to be average.

	02-07-2003 14:25									#7
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haven't seen it yet, stop spoiling

	02-07-2003 14:30									#8
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sprucemoose3311 ... that is an interesting view of it all.

For me, I just like to see crazy sh*t in movies with lots of blowing up stuff and action out the ying yang. Storyline is usually second to the action. But your take on it seems quite interesting.

Etchelion... movie opened on Tuesday night july 1st. Only reason I see movies before they open is that my buddy manages a movie theatre and we preview everything before they open. So if I want to see a particular flick, I'll catch it with him when he previews.

If I miss the preview night I can always go back a different night and catch it after closing.
Perks of friendship.

	02-07-2003 14:32									#9
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haven't seen it yet, stop spoiling

I believe it mentions possible spoilers in thread title. Be careful and aware of where you tread son. :P~~

	02-07-2003 14:33									#10
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there's spit dropping down your tongue...

	02-07-2003 14:38									#11
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That is correct. I'm a drooling old shmuck.

	02-07-2003 14:46									#12
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I have nothing to reply.... I am... amazed.

	02-07-2003 14:48									#13
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quote: Originally posted by OldWarrior_42 ... I'm a drooling old shmuck.

Quite the most disgusting mental image I have yet seen on Apolyton.

Look up that word. It's not nice at all.

	02-07-2003 14:57									#14
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"Quite the most disgusting mental image I have yet seen on Apolyton."

There has been worse.

"Look up that word. It's not nice at all."

I give my own meanings to words from growing up in NYC. Shmuck was the equivalent to A$$hole when I grew up. Not that disgusting.

And it really isn't drool from the tongue of an old man. It is the equivalent to the razz smiley :P only in manual form.

Thats all folks.

Oh.. and sorry for the threadjack.... sprucemoose.

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	02-07-2003 15:02									#15
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is there another meaning for shmuck?

	02-07-2003 15:05									#16
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schmuck also shmuck ( P ) Pronunciation Key (shmk)
n. Slang
A clumsy or stupid person; an oaf.


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[Yiddish shmok, penis, fool, probably from Polish smok, serpent, tail.]

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

	02-07-2003 15:18									#17
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what's so nasty about that?

	03-07-2003 04:41									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion is there another meaning for shmuck?

Yiddish. Meaning a chopped off foreskin after a circumscision.

If you don't know what a word means... don't use it.

	03-07-2003 04:50									#19
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what if you know one of its two meanings? Is it permissible to use the one you know? What if the meanings both fit in the same context, but can be interpreted different ways?

	03-07-2003 05:02									#20
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Look, SORRY for the threadjack... but my Jewish friends give me a hard time if I use this word, OK? I only wanted to save posters embarrassment in the future.

Wombat: if you start using non-English words in English, expect funny looks AT THE LEAST from the people whose language it came from...

ON TOPIC: I've heard some talk on this thread about possible further Terminator movies... Won't Arnie be a bit old for them? Or could CGI be used to recreate his former youthful looks in T1?

Love the T movies... but I have to admit, no.2 is going to be very hard to top.

T3 is a must see movie for me. Can't wait...

	03-07-2003 07:39									#21
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Arnold started to work out harder than he had been to make himself look better for the movie

he will probably do it again if they make a sequel (which rumor has it will only filmed if t3 makes 85 mil. opening weekend).

	03-07-2003 07:40									#22
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sorry, forgot the link

http://ae.bayarea.com/entertainment...&reviewId=12508

	03-07-2003 08:55									#23
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One of you male chauvinazis claimed in some thread that no female characters are ever killed in modern movies by males.

I'd just like to point out that Matrix 2, XMen2, and T3 all had a male character kill a female character (and the natural vice versa too). Equality is making strides for both sexes, so none of you phobes are in any danger of reverse sexism.

Bah.

T3 is a good flick.

	03-07-2003 10:34									#24
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The Humans are going to win. THe whole reason that SKYNET sent termintors to kill John was that they were losing the war and wanted to kill the leader of the resistance in order to win in the future. John starts, organizes and leads the rebellion against Skynet.

Just cant wait for T-4. I just shaw T-3 and it was a great movie. When it was finished I almost thought I was going to get blowed up by the nukes.

	09-07-2003 11:29									#25
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theoretically- skynet could send back a huge amount of terminators to any point in time they want. They could send a terminator back in time before T1 took place. The resistance was just lucky they knew skynet sent the other units back in time.

The humans should win. They lost some top lietenants, but John and his future wife still survived.

One thing I missed from T3 is dogs. I like how they played a small role in T1 and T2.

	09-07-2003 14:52									#26
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Yep, but there was a cat in T3, in pet hospital.
Obviously something is very wrong with this movie.
Cats sucks.