03-07-2003 02:59									#1
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Camulodunum_____Unorthodox
-Rush Temple, to start on worker next turn.
-Change workforce to both work coast

Zenophobia_______MasterZen
-Queue in harbour.

Trafalgar_________Panzer32

Tatung___________Hot_Enamel
No Orders

Anyang___________Hot_Enamel
No Orders

The Hill___________Hot_Enamel
No Orders

Camp Cod________Panzer32

Imperial City______Panzer32

Camp Concord_____Panzer32
-Produces rider this turn, start on another one.

Macao____________Donegeal

Drednoughtica_____Donegeal

Skulgaria__________Aggie

Shantung__________Aggie
-Grows this turn

Port Isolation_______Aggie

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Workers
Republican Worker 2 to begin a mine for Anyang

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military
-Need to know if we can scout even farther south with the galley neer Bilbao. I'll check Aggie's timing stuff to make sure we can before I move.
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Foreign Affairs
-Try and figure out whose offering what

Last edited by Hot_Enamel on 04-07-2003 at 16:07

	03-07-2003 08:22									#2
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I would rather that we move galley's back. First we are getting close to attack, but also we need to not tip off or make rp paranoid.
Aggie

	03-07-2003 08:43									#3
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End the torture and give me 36 gold....

please?

	03-07-2003 09:54									#4
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Wait until the upgrades are done and we definatly have enough $$.

	03-07-2003 20:30									#5
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ok, I calculated the turns, and we can only move the galley one turn further south or else we won't get to 5x S of Shantung in 70bc.

edit: Aggie, you want to move the galleys back? OK.

Last edited by Panzer32 on 03-07-2003 at 20:36

	03-07-2003 20:34									#6
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Also, I would like to do a few rider upgrades this turn, so we don't do them all at once. I suggest 4 this turn, and I give permission for the spending as CoIA.

	03-07-2003 20:37									#7
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Make sure it is there at START of 70. Also we will need 980 for uprgades/rushes. With what we have now and promises of gold we are at (without our own contribution) 1099. Consider 40+ a tturn more we are at 1220, so if there are any money request the military doesn't object.
Aggie

	03-07-2003 21:16									#8
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MZ's is 40 gold ATM as well....just FYI... (with a harbor and a temple, Zenophobia will be semi-productive even...)

76 gold for the whole island...

MZ, if we get this rushed, how 'bout you start the harbor, Ill start a worker and begin roading your direction...once connected, let's get those hills worked before worrying about Camulodunum, which will mostly produce cash from the harbor, not shields anyway.

	03-07-2003 21:28									#9
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After deliberation, I will rush Camulodunum but not Zenophobia.

	03-07-2003 21:33									#10
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Ok...

Que up a worker next anyway. After one turn (3 turns from now), request a rush of that as well, should also be 36 gold, assuming my math is correct, then build a harbor and begin the road to Zenophobia.

What did we ever decide on the workers? Are you controlling them or would I? If it's me, road to Zenophobia, then road/mine the hills there, then back up to Camulodunum and mine a few tiles before turning him over to you (assuming there is a boat that can transport workers over to the mainland, I may build a few workers for the Imperial work crew. Given my limited shield capacity, that is likely the best benefit I can give...)

	03-07-2003 21:35									#11
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I want to time the worker finishing the road and Zeno finishing the harbour so they finish at the same time.

	03-07-2003 21:44									#12
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MZ is 5 turns from a temple, has 7 turns worth food in the box for 2 shields/turn before starvation IIRC...

I see, rush the harbor later.

BTW, i've been an idiot (well I haven't really been opening the saves, and the corruption level changed when we built the new cities...). Change the WF to both work coast....they're not making shields anyway, may as well make some gold. Should at least make 1-2 gold/turn this way.

	04-07-2003 00:29									#13
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Unorthodox, if you could please edit that in to my original post that'd be great. Otherwise I might miss it.

	04-07-2003 18:05									#14
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	04-07-2003 18:12									#15
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Started to play the turn, but ND offered 200 gold and only 5 GPT instead of 10; I emailed Darekill back to ask about it. Holding the save until I get a response.

	04-07-2003 18:17									#16
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VITAL, IMPORTANT INFO:
-Spain is in anarchy. Probably going for republic.
-After upgrading only 3 horses to riders (4 total riders), our military goes from weak to average compared to them.

	04-07-2003 19:01									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Panzer32 VITAL, IMPORTANT INFO: -Spain is in anarchy. Probably going for republic. -After upgrading only 3 horses to riders (4 total riders), our military goes from weak to average compared to them.

That's why I was wanting to save up and do them all at once.

1) They see our galley coming after them.
2) They now see a sudden jump in our military, knowing we are in the Chivalry phase.

1+2=3, they can probably guess they are our target and may be changing their government to fight us.

	04-07-2003 20:45									#18
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb That's why I was wanting to save up and do them all at once. 1) They see our galley coming after them. 2) They now see a sudden jump in our military, knowing we are in the Chivalry phase. 1+2=3, they can probably guess they are our target and may be changing their government to fight us.

I agree that is one reason I designated an upgrade turn. But hopefully no harm done. We will actually probably be strong to all and equal to GS at the time of the attack.
Aggie

	04-07-2003 21:22									#19
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from Darekill:

quote: As i recall it was 200g and 5g/T first and as soon as we get education we pay another 5/gT There are 100g and 5g/t for Chivallry and another 100g as prepaiment for Education. Tell me if i got it wrong.

About the upgrading issue, I think gradual upgrading is the best, so maybe they thing we're building units, etc... not a huge upgrade looking for somewhere to kill. Anyways, I like having at least a few riders ready now, so that we can defend ourselves if anyone attacks before we do.

	05-07-2003 00:49									#20
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ok, I'll play it now as no one thinks that is a problem

btw, we have a bit of insurance from ND against an attack as they are paying 100g for education when we're giving it about 15-17 turns down the road

	05-07-2003 01:13									#21
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Turn Report

-WM, furs, and 200g from GS for WM, wines, and chivalry from us sent accepted.
-Chivalry sent to ND for 200g and 5gpt, they need to accept it now, so it times perfectly with GS for RP's sake.

-Camp Concord produces Rider named "V Sir Estonia", starts on another.
-Camulodunum temple rushed for 32g, worker next in q.

-Moses mines.
-Republic worker 2 moves on top of gem mountain.
-Republic worker 3 mines (this one is for anyang, #2 isn't close to there).

-Ist Imperial Guard moves into Skulgaria.

-V Sir Estonia moves towards Skulgaria.
-3 of the other horses upgraded (have to do at least 3 or else it could be cheating).

-Ist Imperial Infantry moves NW.

-IInd Old Ironsides moves NE-E-SE; over top of little legos now. Sees a few grasslands but still generally inhospitable.
-IIIrd Albatros moves N. Notice that RP watch rider has moved N-N or its position last turn.

	05-07-2003 17:25									#22
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Panzer, did you send the turn??

	05-07-2003 18:59									#23
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oops

sent the turn.

I played it, but forgot to send it. I think I need to change my sig...