03-07-2003 14:48									#1
	ISDG Rules Poll at 1BC: Rule #1 Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

How do you wish to vote on this proposal?

quote: Here we go again! Okay, the voting rules will be the same on these polls as they were on the previous. Only a team captain or a recognized official from each civ may vote. Yes/No, Yea/Nay, whatever as long as there is no doubt about your vote. We will still need 2/3rds, or in this case 6 of 8 positive votes. A team may post an abstain if they don't wish to vote. If this is the case, the abstain will not be counted as a NO vote. The poll will need 2/3rds of the non-abstain votes to pass. I would urge any team that does not wish to vote to abstain so that we know that your team has been spoken for. Here is the rule addition in question: 1. Any team that is going to be unable to play their turn within 24 hours of receiving the turn must post regarding their inability in the UN forum – Turn Counter Thread. Time will be deducted for only the first 24 hours (real-time) after receipt of the turn or after notice has been given if the turn has been received prior to such notification. In any event, no team will lose more than 13 hours on any turn provided notice is given prior to receipt of the turn. (24 hrs – 4 bonus – 7 green hrs = 13hrs) If no notice is given, time will be deducted until the turn is sent at the normal rate.

	03-07-2003 16:55									#2
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We voted no to this rubbish last time; how about we propose an amendment banning repetitive introduction of the same amendment after this?

NO, again.

	03-07-2003 16:59									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Fried-Psitalon We voted no to this rubbish last time; how about we propose an amendment banning repetitive introduction of the same amendment after this? NO, again.

My thoughts exactly.

	03-07-2003 20:27									#4
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And mine as well.

	03-07-2003 22:15									#5
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Screw them. I'm sure those jerks at CGN are behind all this.

	03-07-2003 22:44									#6
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On the subject of CGN, I just saw this thread in their public forum: http://www.civgaming.net/forums/sho...=&threadid=2638

Note that they have a thread in their private forum called "Hello German Webring Team". I doubt it's any surprise that they've met, but it's always nice to have confirmation.

	03-07-2003 23:07									#7
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Note that they have a thread in their private forum called "Hello German Webring Team". I doubt it's any surprise that they've met, but it's always nice to have confirmation.

How'd you see that?

	03-07-2003 23:51									#8
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Forgive me, kinda new...

I was browsing over there at 1BC, and couldn't find anything.

Are these NEW rules being proposed, or changes to existing rules. I mean I see the agreement to play within 4 hours, but penalizing people for going over...well, that is rediculous IMO.

Personally, I would want every other team at their best. If that means they spent an extra hour one day, 2 the next, so be it... Especially since it seems Firaxis is the biggest violator of the 4 hour rule. I ESPECIALLY would want them at their best.

	03-07-2003 23:53									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Trip How'd you see that?

Did you click the link I posted? It's in a public forum.

That thread is in their public ISDG-related forum and is about miccofl worrying about someone he thinks might have unauthorised access to their private forum. To demonstrate his concerns he posts a screenshot showing someone viewing a thread called "Hello German Webring team". This thread is clearly in their private forum and strongly suggests that CGN have met the Webring team.

	03-07-2003 23:57									#10
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Only problem being that in order to view that image you have to register at their forum, which I wasn't willing to do just to view an image.

	04-07-2003 00:04									#11
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ah .... I wasn't aware of that. Bit of a stupid rule really.

Trust me, though, it's there.

	04-07-2003 04:03									#12
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Hmmm, again, without the penalties this is sort of pointless.

	04-07-2003 07:58									#13
	Re: ISDG Rules Poll at 1BC: Rule #1 Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Any team that is going to be unable to play their turn within 24 hours of receiving the turn must post regarding their inability in the UN forum - YES

Time will be deducted for only the first 24 hours (real-time) after receipt of the turn or after notice has been given if the turn has been received prior to such notification. In any event, no team will lose more than 13 hours on any turn provided notice is given prior to receipt of the turn. (24 hrs – 4 bonus – 7 green hrs = 13hrs) If no notice is given, time will be deducted until the turn is sent at the normal rate. - NO

So, overall - NO

	04-07-2003 11:43									#14
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A NO to this one. I may vote yes elsewhere but I think having to play within 4 hours is a little Draconian.

	04-07-2003 14:22									#15
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Three NO votes are needed from the teams to stop these silly rules from passing. It seems that we're going to vote NO on them. Can we count on anyone else to support us? Will Firaxis abstain?

	04-07-2003 14:47									#16
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It was voted down the first time, FP. CDG has already said no to the penalty clause this time. That leaves one other than us. We need to win that one vote.

I think Firaxis will vote yes, so as not to obstruct.