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Why did you have to say some more American-bashing, Alinestra? If I go by the flag by your name, suggesting that you are Chinese, there are numerous amounts of jokes and things I could say to make fun of your nation and its achievements. Stop ripping on the Americans, ok? Or else I'll flame with Chinese jokes, too.
Back on topic....
The Israeli/Hebrew/Jewish Nation sounds good, in the ways that others have described it. I think it should be a defensive Nation, with maybe some Ancient and Classical Age unique units, and then Modern and Information Age unique units, such as Sayerets (spelling?) and a Merkava Mark 4.
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Nameless One
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But even with their short lifetime, they had managed to become the greatest nation at present time...
I'd say, USA should be a nation in RoN... |
The problem with the Americans is that they were never an ancient tribe. They are a modern offshoot of the Britons. Everyone else makes somewhat sense when they start in the ancient era, but Americans.
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:29
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Aegis Cruiser is a must - one of America's prinicple strengths is its navy and air superiority. Also goes for the Nimitz Carrier, could hold say 8 fighters instead of . |
i say no to both. why? because thus far, there are no unique naval units. there are nations which definitely deserve some unique naval units--the koreans and the greeks, for example. they don't have those unique naval units; thus, any american civ should not have one either. besides, every unique unit has a regular unit counter of one sort or another; that's because all the unique units are ground units. an american water unique unit would have no natural counter, and thus be a game-breaker.
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Why did you have to say some more American-bashing, Alinestra? If I go by the flag by your name, suggesting that you are Chinese, there are numerous amounts of jokes and things I could say to make fun of your nation and its achievements. Stop ripping on the Americans, ok? Or else I'll flame with Chinese jokes, too. |
dude, she's of asiatic origin, but she's like me... we're both american.
i didn't see that as america bashing. and in any case, you won't win any arguments by stooping so low as to bash another country.
if there is a israeli/hebrew/jewish nation, i'd suggest we drop the israeli and jewish names and stick with hebrew. jewish is loaded, as it's a religious term; one could just as easily substitute the word arab for muslim, but there was a good reason for them not doing that. as for israel, it's either a) too modern, or b) during the same time as judea, thus doesn't make too much sense. besides, hebrew is a tribe, an ethnicity, which fits far more in line with the other tribes and nations in the game--not one of them is named for a country, but rather an ethnicity, a tribe.
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Ancient Underwater Base
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Our culture is everywhere. The Fareast Asia has embraced our form of capitalism, Europe is the same, things like McDonalds and bluejeans are common sites all over the world. |
and you consider Mc Donalds as Culture? You only describe your own narrow mindness! Don't make me Laugh! :LOL: the rest of the world should be considered as culturally backword if they don't have the same fast food consumption minded, warpig's like Amerika?!? Thumbs Up for the ignorant! The less you know, the less you know you are nothing but a shallow shell, puppets of madmen. American's are truly a Godgift of bastard inbred Europeans/Africans/Asians! All hail to the new Nazi's of the world, disguising themselfs behind *preventive* war's. You fear what you have become, you dirty Imperialists!
PS: this is only directed at Nationalist, conservatives, who don't know/give **** about the rest of the world, not all American's are like this!
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PolkaSheep
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Thanks for the info, Sirotnikov. I was thinking of editing a few units in the Scenario Editor to make some Sayeret units, that were faster and maybe more powerful than normal Assault Infantry. However, they aren't the entire Army such as Assault Infantry portrays, so maybe I could make them an entirely unique unit, I.E. replaces nothing.
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Apr 1999
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Its a strange phenomenon that we're all living in now-a-days.
All you people say that 'America' isn't an Ancient tribe. I would argue that America is an 'ancient' tribe.
Why? Well, the Vikings may have been around for 1000 or so years. Thats a pretty long time. But they didn't have telephones, or the internet, or anything like that. So, time was much less.. 'valuable'. A second was worthless... even minutes had no real value. Everything was measured in days and sun cycles. Wheras today, people are scrambling for minutes and information is being sent around the world three times over in seconds.
So even though America hasn't been around since the mid 1800s (oh wait.... but why is 'Germany' there then?) the fact is, America has grown and advanced ten.. a hundred times what the Vikings did in 1000 years.. in 300. I mean, the world has fought two major world wars within 30 years or so from each other. Thats crazy.. tell me any other point in history that something like that happend...
Although personally, I wouldn't want the United States in the game, because they would feel to fake, until you get to like Industrail Age...
but then again, I was really mad when I saw Aztecs, Bantu, Inca Maya and Nubia... those are ubsurd.
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PolkaSheep
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Yeah, Veda, I think that there are an amount of Arab nations missing. An Arab civilization or Persians would be great, but i would really appreciate the Indians as a nation.
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PolkaSheep
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Thats a good list there, Signa. But aren't the Khmers already in the game (barbarians in CtW mode)? Or are the Khmerians and Khmers two different nations?
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Andemagne
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Rovaniemi, Lappland, Finland
Dec 1999
time: 07:29
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People say that WWII was because the USA helped the Allies. Did you ever consider that if Germany had won and gave the UK and France a horrible deal..... |
I have tought of that. but we don't know anything about that, so we can safely keep blaming you for it.
maybe the germans where a little wiser folk, and would have kept a little closer eye on her naighpours. maybe they would have given a good deal to UK and France.
yes, thats only maybe, but YOU can't say for sure.
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BTW WWI wasn't ever going to be won by the Germans. They where doomed. They would have folded first even if the USA stayed pernamently neutral. BTW again despite that the 20th Century was like one big nonstop war it did end up rather well, didn't it? |
 since when they were doomed? when the first trenches were duck? when von Schlieffen died in 1913? because they didn't start all out submarine war in august 1914?.....
well what they did, they managed to fight a two front war for over three years before peace of brest-litovsk, sure they would have kicked Allied ***** after that without the americans. in beginning of 1918 Germans started to advance again, but were stopped and turned back by american help to Allies.
and yes, 20th century ended pretty well, but it could have ended even better.
and yes, demoncracy is a bad thing. the most wise should rule.
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Scipio2k
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But who is to determine who is the most wise? That's the problem. I am sure you pulled that from classical literature with the whole "philosopher king" idea, but that is one of those forms of government like communism, in where its great in theory, bad in practice. I still think the democratically-elected republic is the best thing we got going now, no matter how flawed it is, if you are a student of history, you have a much greater appreciation of the life you can live in one of the western democracies compared to the governments of the past.
And on topic, this game really needs some of the "arabia" area civs, like the persians, babylonians and such.
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Andemagne
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Rovaniemi, Lappland, Finland
Dec 1999
time: 07:29
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But who is to determine who is the most wise? That's the problem. |
can't see why that would be a problem.
yes of course, "the stupid" don't understand when somebody is said to be wiser then them, but other than that.
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I am sure you pulled that from classical literature with the whole "philosopher king" idea, but that is one of those forms of government like communism, in where its great in theory, bad in practice. |
where I did get the idea, well lets not get to that.
"philosoher-king idea" have never been used in practise so we don't know.
"philosopher-king idea" don't have anything to do woth communism.
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I still think the democratically-elected republic is the best thing we got going now, no matter how flawed it is, |
yes, but thats only because one, lets not talk about names, democrately-elected republic have bombed every other form of goverment into non-existance.
and if its flawed => it can be improved.
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if you are a student of history, you have a much greater appreciation of the life you can live in one of the western democracies compared to the governments of the past. |
yes, life is better nowadays than in the past, but don't see what the form of goverment got to do with it.
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And on topic, this game really needs some of the "arabia" area civs, like the persians, babylonians and such. |
and on-topic: maybe they are planning an expancion based on that region?
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max14
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I just watched the movie ' an Indian in the capborad ' and I was thinking: if there's any native Americans still alive, they wouldn't want USA to represent them. No offence, but USA is European orientated, she doesn't fit into an America civilisation.
And as usual no Italians in any of the civ games. They are not Romans at all and they are great. (Columbus, Leonardo, Dante to name a few). I want the Italians and they can have the power of mafioso or some'ing.
Also, it's not just USA, it's the whole democratic/captalist world who's bombing everything else to non-existentce. Sure USA didn't bomb USSR physically, but they bombed Korea and Vietnam. And before that, Germany already bombed Russia hard enough. USSR start all over again after both world wars, where USA grew fatter on both occasions, and USSR could still compete. Don't you think communism kind of works ?
And outside of the western world, there are three major powers, Arabs, Indians and Chinese. Britain/USA created Israel for Arabs,. Pakistan for Indians and Taiwan for Chinese, great stradegy. And people think USA is the greatest nation in the world.
Ai, I'm too off-topic. Arabs and Indians should unite themselves first, otherwise there will be people who think they are not 'A nation', and Italians, they'll never be a nation on the world map.
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PresidentMarcos
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Let's change the topic for a moment: Why not add Future Ages (Genetic Age, Diamond Age) and add a special space view, a la CTP?
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