04-07-2003 05:07									#1
	S3 ProSavage8 graphics not compatible Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

hmmm... box reads check riseofnations.com for compatible cards. Behold... the site only lists those cards which have issues..NOT compatible cards. There is nothing compatible at all! All the cards have a issues of one kind or another.

I don't see mine listed "anywhere" so I run out and buy the game..install it...run it..then read..."This Video card is not supported for use with Rise of Nations".


I'd like to take this moment to thank the RON team for making the video issues so clear, especially the link to riseofnations.com to check for compatible cards,(ie M$ useless Knowledge base). Thanks for the link it was quite helpful.

Bottom line there are "no" compatible cards listed!
Only cards with "issues" like VooDoo cards and Nvidias,STB's and the like.

I can live with a non-compatible system. I'll just move on to another game..no real biggie. What I cannot deal with is spending money on game which with all the published data(or lack thereof) my system should run. Then get home and find out it won't run. This is called a ripoff. And taking a second look at the box and seeing Micro$oft published it, its all much more clearer now.

	04-07-2003 07:29									#2
	Tired of ads?

Why did you expect an video card from a defunt company to be supported. Upgrade the video card, as you'll find fewer and fewer new releases are compatible with that card. I don't think anything written for DirectX 9 or greater will work well with any S3 GPU based cards.

	04-07-2003 07:32									#3
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Look. Don't get pissed because your card isn't supported by every game in the universe.

The ProSavage8 is not a mainstream card and you can't possibly expect a playtesting team to examine every card ever made.

Your card is probably not compatable with Directx8/9 games so I wouldn't recommend trying to buy any others if this is the attitude you're going to have.

Why don't you go back to the store, return the game, and spend the $50 on a console where the games are guaranteed to work every time rather than wasting time *****ing on a message board for a game you aren't ever going to play. Or better yet, buy a better graphics card because frankly, yours sucks.

Here are some cheap $30 cards that as far as I know should work with RoN:

http://www.enpc.com/cgi-bin/enpc/sc...cat2/se%3DMX200

	04-07-2003 11:00									#4
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Let me guess Darth - you work on a help desk.

	04-07-2003 11:09									#5
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Ah, no.

	04-07-2003 13:56									#6
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

My rant was not about my card per se..but the statment on the box pertaining to compatible cards...following the given link and finding absolutely no cards listed as being compatible.

	05-07-2003 05:53									#7
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

It won't run on a Apple II either. Philistines.

	05-07-2003 09:43									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

so get a different game. Theres more than a few good ones out there.

	05-07-2003 10:50									#9
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 I've never been to a store that allows you to return a game and get cash back. EVER.

Why support stores with such a backwards policy?

	05-07-2003 15:43									#10
	Inflate your Upload Space

Electronics Boutique has a money-back policy, IIRC.

	06-07-2003 06:37									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Look for a file in your RoN directory called "BHGVidCardConfig.txt". Open that file and look for the videocard you have. There should be a line that looks like this:

drivers=notsupported

Change that to drivers=supported and it should start up.

BTW it is there and it is not supported

Last edited by blackice on 06-07-2003 at 06:52

	06-07-2003 08:32									#12
	Support Apolyton

*clickety clickety*
They're actually there!

The game will run like that?

	06-07-2003 08:47									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by blackice Look for a file in your RoN directory called "BHGVidCardConfig.txt". Open that file and look for the videocard you have. There should be a line that looks like this: drivers=notsupported Change that to drivers=supported and it should start up. BTW it is there and it is not supported

But his video card still sucks

	07-07-2003 16:05									#14
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

quote: Originally posted by blackice Look for a file in your RoN directory called "BHGVidCardConfig.txt". Open that file and look for the videocard you have. There should be a line that looks like this: drivers=notsupported Change that to drivers=supported and it should start up. BTW it is there and it is not supported

Thanks for the tip...anyhow..I put in a GeForce2 with the latest drivers and the game runs fine now.

Thanks all for the advice. Especially the DirectX 9 advice.

Yes I was a little tweaked by the foggy box requirements. But I was never angry about not being able to run the game...honestly. It was only the confusion with the requirements. I can always upgrade.

thanks.

	12-07-2003 07:48									#15
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Phantom_Ace Thanks for the tip...anyhow..I put in a GeForce2 with the latest drivers and the game runs fine now. Thanks all for the advice. Especially the DirectX 9 advice. Yes I was a little tweaked by the foggy box requirements. But I was never angry about not being able to run the game...honestly. It was only the confusion with the requirements. I can always upgrade. thanks.

I was just about to tell you that you can pickup a nice GeForce 4 with 128mb ddr ram over at newegg.com for just over $50. Obviously you were on top of it. Anyway, GeForce 2 is really good too and much better and more compatibly then your built in S3. I will probably be getting a new card soon myself. I am still running an old 32mb TNT2 and only had compatibility issues with one game, Battlefield 1942. Other then that, I have been able to run ANY and all of my games including all of the new RTS games with great performance. Also, Flight Simulator 2002 on max settings. At last RoN is a very good reason to upgrade your video card anyway so you done the right thing

	17-07-2003 19:02									#16
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

quote: Originally posted by blackice Look for a file in your RoN directory called "BHGVidCardConfig.txt". Open that file and look for the videocard you have. There should be a line that looks like this: drivers=notsupported Change that to drivers=supported and it should start up. BTW it is there and it is not supported

this won't really work will it? i'm going to try it when i get home though.

	18-07-2003 11:48									#17
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

It would be nice if they did actually list the (known) compatible cards and chipsets at that link.

On the other hand, using obsolete hardware is always risky, especially once new DirectX versions start being used.

	05-09-2003 08:54									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by blackice Look for a file in your RoN directory called "BHGVidCardConfig.txt". Open that file and look for the videocard you have. There should be a line that looks like this: drivers=notsupported Change that to drivers=supported and it should start up. BTW it is there and it is not supported

Thank you blackice it works! I also have an s3savagepro... Now if i can just stop the flickering mouse - that additional word on the properties taget don't work