05-07-2003 16:56									#1
	I no trade Chivalry to the Spain, effendi! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Witness my finest shrewd arab trader impression and how RP is denied Chivalry without ending up cursing us (at least in public)

quote: Session Start: Thu Jul 03 14:35:31 2003 Session Ident: #July [14:35] * Now talking in #July [14:35] [MasterZen] where do you come up with those names... [14:35] [BigFree] :-/ [14:35] [BigFree] I dunno [14:36] [Togas] any chance we can grab a ND guy? [14:36] [MasterZen] so, whats up? [14:37] [BigFree] so, if all of Bob asks GS for such a condition on lux deals, we can get some securioty for our continent [14:37] [MasterZen] no ND in the main room.. [14:37] [MasterZen] we're asking them the same thing but they're stubborn MFers... [14:38] [BigFree] GS stated that they want to be able to declare wa on a momnts notice [14:38] [BigFree] GOOD [14:38] [BigFree] LOL [14:38] [BigFree] we ask for the same thing already [14:38] [BigFree] without colaberation [14:38] [BigFree] they ask if I would accept a 3 turn notice [14:39] [BigFree] I said I would get bak to thme [14:39] [MasterZen] I wonder if ND is also doing this... although really they are the noes who are least affected... it's us two which have more to fear [14:39] * BigFree sets mode: +o MasterZen [14:39] [BigFree] Well, we could get ND to trade them spices [14:39] * Panzer32 has joined #july [14:39] [Togas] I actually find it amusing that GS is stuck on terms like this. [14:40] [Panzer32] hi there [14:40] [Togas] greetings [14:40] [BigFree] Security for our continent, form outside invcasions.... [14:40] * BigFree sets mode: +o Panzer32 [14:40] [MasterZen] GS just wants freedom of action [14:40] [BigFree] If ND doesn't gor for, we can suspect something from them then [14:40] [MasterZen] perhaps [14:40] [BigFree] maybe a GS ND alliance [14:41] [MasterZen] a 3 turn warning.. hahaha... you have 3 turns to prepare for a 7 galley invasion... [14:41] [BigFree] BTW, I detected that someone got Chiv last turn [14:41] [BigFree] wouldn't be GoW would it? [14:41] [BigFree] 12: 4) 1 [14:41] [Togas] I wonder who that might be...? [14:41] [MasterZen] nah, it was probably Vox :P [14:41] [BigFree] How much? [14:42] [BigFree] LOL [14:42] [MasterZen] wait, let me put my best Arab street trader voice [14:42] [BigFree] hehe [14:42] [MasterZen] salaam, you know Chivalry is most important tech these days, effendi [14:43] [BigFree] most definately, the highest of the high techs! [14:43] [MasterZen] I give you it, say, 500g, cheap! [14:43] [MasterZen] and cheap Afghan rug for 100g extra! [14:43] * BigFree bends over double form the stomach pains [14:44] [BigFree] why did you hit me like that? [14:44] [MasterZen] ah you think I give bad price? Ahmed over there sells for 700g! [14:44] [BigFree] LOL [14:44] [MasterZen] and Ibrahim? you don't want me tell you what price he give you... [14:44] [BigFree] HAHA [14:44] [BigFree] you should be on RP! [14:45] [MasterZen] my name would be "Sheik Yerbouit the Moor" [14:45] [MasterZen] *Yerbouti [14:45] [BigFree] HAHA [14:45] [BigFree] what about 250? [14:46] [Togas] LOL!! [14:46] [MasterZen] what? you think Sheik Yerbouti is a fool? chivalry worth much more than that effendi! [14:46] [BigFree] um 300? [14:46] [MasterZen] look, for 250 I give you, eh, Persian rug... [14:47] [BigFree] how about a GS WM ontop? [14:47] [MasterZen] or free tickets to Sultan Ashtar's trendy nighclub in Beirut [14:48] [Panzer32] we don't need a GS WM [14:48] [BigFree] 12: 4( 1 [14:48] [Togas] we don't have anywhere near 500g [14:48] [MasterZen] plus, are you sure you're going to get it? the WM that is... [14:48] [Togas] we don't even have 200g, so whatever we agree to will suck the hell out of us in GPT. [14:48] [BigFree] what if we offered some extra luxes? [14:48] [MasterZen] look, here's the deal [14:49] [BigFree] or even Iron! [14:49] [MasterZen] iron?! bah! we arabs don't need iron effendi, we need oil! [14:49] [MasterZen] we piss oil [14:50] [BigFree] LOL [14:50] [MasterZen] we do our garden and oil comes out [14:50] [MasterZen] ok, now, ehem seriously [14:50] [MasterZen] you understand how important chivalry is to us [14:50] [BigFree] yes [14:50] [MasterZen] and how important that we want a certain "window" of monopoly, kinda like the US had with the atom bomb [14:51] [BigFree] and about not letting ND get it [14:51] [MasterZen] that's why we will only offer it for an extremely outrageous price right now, but we will drop it soon [14:51] [MasterZen] let's just say that if things don't get out of hand so to speak [14:52] [Togas] we'll have to wait for the price to drop, then. [14:52] [MasterZen] I'd say in about 10 turns (maybe less depending on the world situation) we'll bring it up for 200g or even 150g and a lux, something like taht [14:52] [BigFree] when do youplan to trade/sell to ND? [14:53] [MasterZen] when they give us 500g [14:53] [BigFree] LOL [14:53] [Togas] nice [14:53] [MasterZen] they might be reaserching it themselves though [14:53] [BigFree] where are you getting Engineering from? [14:53] [BigFree] or Theology [14:53] [MasterZen] from these textbooks I smuggled from the engineering school in college [14:54] [Panzer32] Vox is engineering IIRC [14:54] [BigFree] k [14:54] [MasterZen] we're getting Theo from Lego [14:54] [Togas] do you have a deal in place with them? [14:54] [Togas] if not, we'd be happy to split costs with you. [14:54] [Panzer32] yes we do [14:54] [BigFree] hmm, we have it now [14:54] [MasterZen] they put a no-trade clause for it though, although we'll gladly trade it once it's over [14:55] [Togas] we have Theology [14:55] [BigFree] they didnt put a no trade to us [14:55] [MasterZen] doh [14:55] [BigFree] cancel deal with them [14:55] [BigFree] we give god deal [14:55] [BigFree] or good [14:55] [Togas] to our GoW allies [14:55] [BigFree] depends on how you look at it [14:55] [MasterZen] "god" deal? you make us god? [14:56] [BigFree] sure [14:56] [BigFree] if the price is right [14:56] [Togas] a deal that's so good, God himself would be pleased [14:56] [MasterZen] only one god, infidel! Allah! praise be he! Allah ackbar...! [14:56] [MasterZen] that's it, you offend Allah, I no trade with you... [14:56] [BigFree] LOL [14:56] [MasterZen] I tell Ibrahim and Abdulla to sell 1,000g for chivalry Session Close: Thu Jul 03 14:56:52 2003 Session Start: Thu Jul 03 14:56:57 2003 Session Ident: #July [14:56] * Now talking in #July [14:56] [BigFree] HAHA [14:57] [MasterZen] haha... just kidding [14:57] [Togas] LOL [14:57] [BigFree] thatwas good [14:57] [MasterZen] I'm in such a roleplaying mood today... [14:57] [BigFree] 12: 4) 1 [14:57] [BigFree] seriously, can you back out of the deal with Legp? [14:57] [MasterZen] I doubt it [14:57] [Panzer32] I don't think we want to [14:58] [MasterZen] plus, the team would have to agree to it also [14:58] [BigFree] right [14:58] [MasterZen] we might be opportunistic bastards but we don't break deals [14:58] [BigFree] but we guarantee a bette deal than them [14:58] [Panzer32] don't want to get on their bad side [14:58] [MasterZen] well, we can set up some trade deals afterwards can't we? [14:58] [BigFree] you signed a deal already? [14:58] [Togas] certainly [14:58] [Panzer32] BF, do you have education? [14:58] [Togas] but let this be a lesson, you guys need to TALK TO US [14:59] [BigFree] not yet panzer [14:59] [Togas] we'd love to "go halfsies" with you in the future [14:59] [MasterZen] we can still coordinate research, it's not too late... [14:59] [Panzer32] aha! [14:59] [BigFree] sure [14:59] [MasterZen] a lot of new techs will soon be viable: invention, astronomy... [14:59] [BigFree] do us one favor? [14:59] [MasterZen] kill GS? [14:59] [BigFree] let us know when you attack ND [14:59] [MasterZen] sorry, too weak [14:59] [Togas] ok, 2 favors... [14:59] [Panzer32] we're waiting for engineering from vox then we're going for invention [15:00] [MasterZen] see, the thing is that the tech tree narrows right now [15:00] [MasterZen] we have more civs than available techs, that means tech whoring is really out of the question, rather tech "sharing" [15:00] [Panzer32] yeah... maybe if you guys go for astonomy... [15:00] [Togas] we may go Printing Press as Lego is on Education. [15:01] [Panzer32] ah [15:01] [Togas] after education, we'll certainly go Astronomy [15:01] [MasterZen] I have a feeling Lego might go for Music Theory [15:01] [MasterZen] afterwards [15:01] [Togas] we think so too [15:01] [MasterZen] wonder what GS will go for... [15:01] [Panzer32] they dont need astronomy [15:01] [Togas] Such things are top secret [15:01] [Togas] they'd never tell [15:01] [MasterZen] like their stupid map [15:03] [BigFree] 12: 4( 1 [15:04] [MasterZen] are you guys going for Sistine's? [15:05] [BigFree] well, we were [15:05] [MasterZen] but? [15:06] [Togas] it was either Sistine's or a bad-ass army. [15:06] [Togas] we went with army. [15:06] [Panzer32] Was Aidun disapointed?? [15:06] [MasterZen] Lego's probably gonna snatch it then [15:06] [Togas] he still is [15:06] [BigFree] very [15:06] [BigFree] he cried [15:07] [Panzer32] ouch... I hate to see a pope cry [15:07] [Togas] but he also wants us to build cathedrals... [15:07] [MasterZen] when you get Motorized Transport will you make him a pope-mobile? [15:07] [Togas] we will We'll name 1 unit after him. [15:08] [MasterZen] the Pope Panzer [15:15] [Togas] one thing I wanted to bring up [15:15] [Togas] Just for you to consider ... as we had this problem in the Vox/GS war. [15:15] [MasterZen] no, I said no deals. You talk with Ibrahim... that's it.. :P [15:15] [MasterZen] haha [15:15] [MasterZen] go ahead [15:16] [Togas] we got involved way too late because we needed Feudalism and had to wait to get it. [15:16] [MasterZen] Togas, it would have made no difference. GS got Feudalism just a few turns after Vox invaded, that was the catalist. [15:16] [Togas] If something happens ... like you guys sneak attacking ND, or GS getting involved with Bob, and we don't have Chiv yet, we're not going to be very mobile. [15:17] [MasterZen] if something like that happens we will most likely seal a deal with you on Chivalry very quickly [15:17] [Togas] right now we have stacks of Inf ready for interior defense, but not a mobile fighting team that Chivalry would provide [15:17] [Panzer32] yeah, like MZ said [15:18] [BigFree] cool [15:18] [Togas] gotcha. Just keep us in mind. Vox didn't warn us in advance for the GS attack ... if they had, we could have been more helpful. [15:18] [BigFree] we would likely back you on a war with ND, but let us know before hand [15:18] [MasterZen] oh, if we have any plans against ND we'll let you know, we won't take them on alone [15:18] [Togas] if something is brewing, please get in touch with us to make this deal. [15:18] [BigFree] give us a little notice [15:18] [BigFree] more than 2-3 turns [15:19] [BigFree] we can make it hut! [15:19] [MasterZen] right know we want to see "what is brewing". Us getting Chivalry is like the moment everyone is holding their breath for [15:19] [BigFree] *hurt [15:19] [Togas] Actually we WOULD back you in a war against ND ... nothing "likely" about it. [15:19] [BigFree] ture [15:19] [BigFree] true [15:19] [BigFree] we will keep it a secret that you have it [15:20] [MasterZen] I doubt it's a secret [15:20] [BigFree] are you supposed o trade it to ND at any time? [15:21] [MasterZen] I trade if the have money, effendi! [15:21] [MasterZen] if not, Ibrahim or Abdulla sell to them, that no good [15:21] [MasterZen] but as I said, they're probably reasearching themselves... [15:21] [MasterZen] that's what I would do if I were them :P [15:22] [BigFree] dont count on it though [15:22] [Panzer32] If we do trade it to them we would suck them dry and they wouldn't be able to upgrade anyways... its a hot issue on GOW. [15:22] [BigFree] hehe [15:22] [BigFree] I think they may ave went for Eng [15:23] [BigFree] since Vox has no Eng deal with them [15:23] * Panzer32 sets mode: +o MasterZen [15:23] [Togas] anyhow, let's play hardball with GS for some sort of turn-warning before breaking the lux deal. [15:23] [BigFree] yes [15:24] [Togas] Should you guys need a few of our luxes in the future, ask. [15:25] [Togas] I gotta get some work done. Take care [15:25] [BigFree] adios [15:25] * Togas has left #july [15:26] [BigFree] anything else? [15:26] [MasterZen] you still want Afghan or Persian rug, effendi? [15:28] [Panzer32] How about some genuine Trafalgar chop suey? Much better than Spanish squid, I must say. [15:29] [Panzer32] anyone know if there is a centre tag for the forums? [15:29] [MasterZen] nope [15:29] [Panzer32] nuts ] [15:30] [Panzer32] I'm currently writing "On the Origins and Practices of the Blockheads" [15:30] [Panzer32] a semi-autobiographical work [15:31] [BigFree] lol [15:34] [MasterZen] I'll have to write "On the Origins and Practices of the Zenheads" [15:40] * BigFree is now known as BigFree|Away [16:43] * Panzer32 has quit IRC (Quit: ) [17:19] * Disconnected Session Close: Thu Jul 03 17:19:06 2003