05-07-2003 18:52									#1
	House of Lords bill: Establishment of a Military Council. Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

It has been explainded in other threads that it would be good to have State Council to advise the King on military affairs:

quote: Originally posted by dejon My King, As I have stated in the past, I think it would be wise to make some sort of War Council official. The Armies of Spain have ensured our survival for many thousands of years, and somehow merits only an appointed minister? Yet the Church of Spain, which has enlightened our citizens for only a few hundred years, merits a full house of representatives? I do not wish to belittle the Holy Church, my Lord, but this seems vastly unfair. I hope the citizens will sleep soundly knowing that their souls are safe, even if their bodies are at risk. Jaguar Dejon, Commander of the Spanish Armies

quote: Originally posted by Aidun Your Majesty, I support Señor Dejon, but for a different reason than he has. Until the Chief Ambassador was appointed, the King did the foreign affairs business, including declaring war or peace. Then, The Chief anmassador took over this task of the King and all functioned well, although ambassadors became less important. The most important remark of this system is that it works FAST end is, in most of the times very effective. Having an entire House of Lords to decide about foreign matters is really slowing down the procedure and will reducce our ability to properly do diplomacy as we did until now. Letting the King or Chief ambassador do this without any approval from the House of Lords will be far more efficient. But then what to do with the Military Council? Let the Military Council coordinate the military planning with the King and the Chief Ambassador, but not have a right to approve any decisions, as this will only extra slow down the process. The military council should contain: the General, the governors of the biggest Spanish production cities, the Chief ambassador and of course the King. Why only include the governors of the biggest spanish cities in this council? Because it is a lot easier discussing with but 6 ot 7 people than the entire team. Second: the biggest production cities are responsible for the military production now, and especially important in time of war, the rest of the cities is production-wise important too (without these Spain would not exist anymore by now), but far less significant than the few big cities. I think that it is something to think about for both the King and the House of Lords. Duke Aidun Cian of Zaragoza

I think that I may say that I propose this bill on behalf of Señor Dejon, Señor Libre and Señor Astronicus, who supported me when the King showed the Vigo Accord to us all.

I hereby ask you to vote in favor of a Military Council as specified in the quotes above.

I use the same procedure for this bill as for the motion: this thread is meant for discussion, when the debate has ended or after a few days when everybody has been able to post his opinion, I may post a poll, but you can also vote manually in here.

Duke Aidun Cian of Zaragoza

	05-07-2003 20:14									#2
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A PM I sent to Togas on the issue of a Military Council:

quote: quote: From Togas: p.s. The Military Counsel idea needs to come from the House of Lords, I have no plans to formalize it. I enjoy the idea of it being an unofficial reccomendation and will entertain it as such, but I dont think Spain needs more committees, Spain needs more active individuals. I read this PM after I created the thread for the military council. I have the opinion that military planning needs a central coordinated planning. Only by closely cooperating with the governors, the King and the Chief Ambassador, the General of Spain can perform his task properly: If the General does not cooperate with the Ch. A. he can't prepare military plans. Without cooperation with the governors he simply doesn't have soldiers. To ensure that the General has enough soldiers and can prepare plans, he has to meet with the Governors and the Ch. A. Without a military council, our defense policy will remain an ad-hoc defense policy: radical production changes in times that we expect war and sudden fear in the team. The fact that we didn't have a good military is caused by this poor military planning. Duke Aidun Cian of Zaragoza

	05-07-2003 20:41									#3
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Senor Rubris thinks, full of confusion.. The House of Lords does not exist yet, so how can such a bill be proposed, the merits of the "bill" aside the laws of spains do not allow in until our new period of anarchy is over and the Republic of Spain is in place. Seriouly, though, I agree that miltary planning cannot get held up in the House of Lords, though some oversight should be applied to ensure the interests of spain are protected.

Last edited by CiverDan on 05-07-2003 at 20:46

	06-07-2003 07:50									#4
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When some organization is made, I shall, of course, endorse this proposal.

Don Iago Calamari de Toledo
Lord of Toledo

	08-07-2003 20:17									#5
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We must elect a Lord Chamberlain as soon as possible before disorder erupts!

	08-07-2003 20:36									#6
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Yea...but...when are we electing Lord Chamberlain?

	08-07-2003 21:06									#7
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When people start campaigning. Check out the nominations thread. When we have a number of candidates we'll set up a vote for the four most likely and voila! It should be done by the end of this week.