06-07-2003 00:20									#1
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Because I donīt have access to fancy scifi channels I had to wait until they show it on German tv stations. Now since the first handful episodes were shown Iīm positively surprised. IMO it is (while of course there are some weaknesses) muuuch better than Voyager. Especially the early seasons of Voyager were mainly boring, now Enterprize is quite entertaining from the start. Interesting how the Humans looks at the Vulcans...

How much seasons are their now in the US? And are the newest episodes good as well, even better?

	06-07-2003 00:27									#2
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Because I donīt have access to fancy scifi channels I had to wait until they show it on German tv stations. Now since the first handful episodes were shown Iīm positively surprised. IMO it is (while of course there are some weaknesses) muuuch better than Voyager. Especially the early seasons of Voyager were mainly boring, now Enterprize is quite entertaining from the start. Interesting how the Humans looks at the Vulcans... How much seasons are their now in the US? And are the newest episodes good as well, even better?

Season 1 and 2 were very bland. There were a few nice eps, but there were several real stinkers. Whatever you do, stay away from "A night in sickbay"!

But the show is slowly getting better. The upcoming season 3 promises to shake things up and should be interesting.

	06-07-2003 00:30									#3
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I think these things slowly pick up momentum...being familiar with the crew helps too...

	06-07-2003 00:31									#4
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I watched only the first few episodes and then lost interest.

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quote: Originally posted by BeBro How much seasons are their now in the US? And are the newest episodes good as well, even better?

They are OK.

	06-07-2003 00:40									#6
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are there many gratuitous scenes of T'Pol rubbing gel into herself in the de-comtamination room?

	06-07-2003 00:41									#7
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Mmmmm

	06-07-2003 00:41									#8
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Mind you, she could do to put on a few kilos, she looks anorexic...

	06-07-2003 00:42									#9
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I just saw an episode where she falls directly on Archer (because both were kidnapped and tied together by the kidnappers)

Youīll like it

	06-07-2003 00:45									#10
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It's a bit shit, sorry. Series three isn't really any better. Is there a law about alternating star trek series being crap?

THG -Ok, gets better
Voyager- tripe
DS9- Ok, gets better
Enterprise- guff

I predict a pattern.

	06-07-2003 00:55									#11
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Hm, I think compared to Voyager it is good. To me, Voyager is the worst of all ST series.

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quote: Originally posted by BeBro I just saw an episode where she falls directly on Archer (because both were kidnapped and tied together by the kidnappers) Youīll like it

Yep, thats been on in the UK and the one when she comes over all horny on the doctor in sickbay.

It's definatly better than Voyager, DS9 is my favorite thou!

	06-07-2003 01:12									#13
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Well a bag of beaten cats would be better than Voyager. Still, its not very good. The nice anorexic lady who plays T'Pol notwithstanding

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I thought it was better than everyone since TnG

but than I liked ToS better than TnG

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	06-07-2003 01:29									#15
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...I can feel a poll coming on....;O)

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I have something I need to admit.......

I..........liked............Voyager............

	06-07-2003 01:44									#17
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I thought that the first couple of episodes were awesome but then they started to get boring.

Plus all those gray sets really get old...

	06-07-2003 01:51									#18
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the ship LOOKS STUPID. I'm sorry. but I demand a cooler looking ship everytime. even if its in the past.

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Some of the episodes are quite good, but many are rather boring.
The music ("it's been a long way...") is nothing but blasphemy! Whoever wrote that song should be executed by beating a wookie in chess

	06-07-2003 02:22									#20
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Yes, that song really gets on my tits. They could have had something like what they have to the other Star Trek programs...but not that monstrosity...

	06-07-2003 02:27									#21
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Enterprise is alright, not as good as TNG (season 3-6) or DS9 (also seasons 3-6) though. Voyager was very uneven, but I liked many episodes after 7of9 replaced Kes. TOS had some really good episodes, but.. a bit dated TAS is crap.

	06-07-2003 02:28									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Combat Ingrid Some of the episodes are quite good, but many are rather boring. The music ("it's been a long way...") is nothing but blasphemy! Whoever wrote that song should be executed by beating a wookie in chess

That would be Rod Stewart It's not he who performs it in the ent intro though.

	06-07-2003 02:29									#23
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I liked all of them except for TOS. Each series had its good and bad episodes.. but I think that the plot of DS9 was the most interesting.

	06-07-2003 02:32									#24
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AAARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'VE BEEN FORCED TO LISTEN TO A SH*TY SONG WRITTEN BY ROD STEWART (though, not suprising it'd be shity) ALL THIS TIME?!?!?!?!?!?!

Oh the humanity...

	06-07-2003 02:45									#25
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When I was a very small kid I thought his name was Bobbo Persson. A weird habit I had at that time was that anytime I dug out something really nasty from my nose I used to name it Bobbo Persson too. I still haven't figured out where I got this idea from, maybe somehow I was aware of this song on a subconscious level

	06-07-2003 03:00									#26
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever are there many gratuitous scenes of T'Pol rubbing gel into herself in the de-comtamination room?

I'm sure I saw 3 or 4 of them... or maybe I was just dreaming.

	06-07-2003 03:08									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Combat Ingrid Some of the episodes are quite good, but many are rather boring. The music ("it's been a long way...") is nothing but blasphemy! Whoever wrote that song should be executed by beating a wookie in chess

Interesting,
I really like the Song.

It is not like the usual Themes from the other Star Trek Series,
but aside from the Theme to DS9 I think itīs the best Star Trek Theme ever

as for the Series:
I like it. And as everything else we get to see on German TV are Repetitions from old Episodes it is nice to see something you havenīt already seen x Times (with x being >= 1 )

	06-07-2003 04:15									#28
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I watched Star Trek on German tv last year. You should definitely get it in English. I mean, seriously: "Du bist ein Womulan"???

	06-07-2003 05:42									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Evil Knevil It's a bit shit, sorry. Series three isn't really any better. Is there a law about alternating star trek series being crap? THG -Ok, gets better Voyager- tripe DS9- Ok, gets better Enterprise- guff I predict a pattern.

'cept DS9 came well before Voyager, so now your pattern just shows all of it getting progressively worse. This is obviously incorrect since nothing can be worse than Voyager was

	06-07-2003 06:46									#30
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike 'cept DS9 came well before Voyager, so now your pattern just shows all of it getting progressively worse. This is obviously incorrect since nothing can be worse than Voyager was

I actually like Enterprise, except for the junk about the "War of the Time Line" or whatever it is. They're missing a golden opportunity to develop a compelling plot about the events leading up to the formation of the Federation. If they could work on that they wouldn't need the "Time War".