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Velociryx is offline Velociryx
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Okay folks, I may be jumping the gun slightly here, but I wanted to give everyone an update as to our progress, and here's the scoop.

We're verging on having the major elements in place, at least to the degree that running the program will give you a good sense of where we're going with it.

From the beginning, I said that I wouldn't be releasing ANYTHING to the wider public until it was playable from start to finish, and that's just about where we are now.

With the next alpha release, we should have all the major elements in place sufficiently that the game will be playable from beginning to end.

Specifically what that DOESN'T mean is that it's a finished product. It is not, and cannot be until we've heard from all of you, and I'm happy to announce that we are rapidly drawing the game's "development behind the curtain" to a close.

So, having said that, here's what will be happening soon:

We're going to make our last Alpha build a public release. This will be something of a "basic systems check" so you guys can have a look at what we've been doing, and help us make sure it works every time, all the time. This is absolutely essential before we start moving into the Beta program where we'll begin fleshing everything out with your input. There's no point in beginning to add meat to the basic framework if the basic framework isn't strong enough to support it, and that's what the upcoming public alpha release is all about. Getting your help and input to make sure that the skeleton is good, strong, and sturdy....helping us spot any weak places we might have missed, and so forth.

Warning!!! And I cannot stress this enough - If you are looking for the finished goods, the upcoming public alpha is not for you. It's playable from start to finish, and all the major ingredients are there and in place so that you can get a good feel for where we're headed, but this is not (by any means) the final product. As long as we're clear on that, everything should be just fine.

Among the things you will not see in the public alpha are:

* No victory or attaboy screens at the end.....the game just sorta "ends" right now, and there's a good reason for that....we want to get your input on what should "go there." Not only the look and feel of it, but also how in-depth you want it to be.

* Not all of the spells, acts of fate, espionage, and diplomatic options have been enabled at this point. Enough of all that so that it's clear where we're heading, and still enough time for you who decide to help us along, to add your voice and ideas to the mix.

* Not sure if the tactical map will make an appearance in the alpha release or not, but right now, the plan is to have a toggle switch so you can shift from the "top level" view to the tiled view at will (right now, the game runs exclusively in tiled mode....we're working on getting the strategic map behaving)

* Sounds? Unknown at this point (they're not currently in, but it's high on the list)

So what will be included in the public alpha?

* The map itself (the tiled one), with our latest terrains from Busta

* Combat system fully implemented (those "canned strategies" we discussed here earlier)

* Province loyalty system in place (complete with rebellion chances if you let loyalty dip too low)

* Build limits and variable build points in provinces

* Tech trees/advances fully enabled

* Budgeting system fully enabled

* All provincial improvements enabled and buildable, provided the pre-requisites have been met

* Some espionage functions

* Some (a good many) spells

* Some (a good many) acts of fate

* Honor and Infamy system

* Influence (with the Church)

And others that I've prolly forgotten.

Anyway, just a heads' up to let you guys know that we've not been asleep over here....

-=Vel=-

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Note to self... get off your ass and finish terrain... grumble grumble...

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-=Vel=-

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you had me terrified by the thread title. I was afraid you were going to announce the project in its current form had failed or something like that.


* H Tower waits eagerly

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you had me terrified by the thread title. I was afraid you were going to announce the project in its current form had failed or something like that.


* H Tower waits eagerly



Same here! I had a bit of a coniption.

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I tought so too, but was willing to give Vel the benefit of doubt: if CB was going down, he wouldn't be talking around it in weaselese.

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Sorry guys....didn't mean to give a false impression! Nope....just to say it specifically, there's not a thing in the world wrong with the project (except for me wishing that I had more hours in a day!)....we're getting there, slow and steady!

-=Vel=-
(and thanks for the vote of confidence, Moomin'....I don't speaka dat language... )

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That's good news indeed

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You bet!

As soon as we're good to go that is

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You bet!

As soon as we're good to go that is

Rich.


good to go as in ready to let me have a copy?

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Just give us a screen saying "END" or something, something that will let us have 100% sure we ended it.
Just plain text will suffice!

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Blimey!
I'm off for a few weeks and you guys practically up and finish the thing. Nice going.



quote:
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Warning!!! And I cannot stress this enough - If you are looking for the finished goods, the upcoming public alpha is not for you. It's playable from start to finish, and all the major ingredients are there and in place so that you can get a good feel for where we're headed, but this is not (by any means) the final product. As long as we're clear on that, everything should be just fine.


I wonder if, in the entire history of computer game design, anybody has ever paid attention even once to one of these disclaimers.


Any idea as yet on what the download size is going to be? Obviously not nearly as large as the final product, given the absence of sound effects, etc, I guess ...

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IIRC, the download size, including graphics files and everything, is somewhere around 25Mb. Takes a while over a dialup connection but it's worth it

Rich.

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25mb will take me all of 12 minutes, point me towards that file!

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Damned, 25MB...that's at least 17 seconds of my life wasted

[homer]

hmmmm, ca~ble broad~~band...

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Bugger. 25mg is not good for me being stuck on dialup.

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What's an hour or two, considering that they have spent months (over a year, actually, isn't it?) making it.

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I get an average of 5 bps download through my ISP. That makes it a bit more than a few hours.

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well the sooner they release it, the sooner you can start downloading it

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Or the other thing to do, is to use company resources. Download on the gig-link they got here and burn it to CD.

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So, any dates about when we get to download something? I've been eager to get my hands on this game ever since you announced it...

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Or the other thing to do, is to use company resources. Download on the gig-link they got here and burn it to CD.

That's what i do...

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Or the other thing to do, is to use company resources. Download on the gig-link they got here and burn it to CD.


quote:
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That's what i do...


I have absolutely no idea what you two are on about...

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Some (a good many) spells


Oh Vel, don't mock me so.

Unless you guys did more when I was away...

: Runs off to check spell animation lists :

H Tower is offline H Tower
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how about a report back on that list?

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You'd like that, wouldn't you?

Realistically, I don't think we'll have much in the way of spell animations in our initial release. I've spearheaded some past work on it, but we're talking basic level animation shop stuff here. Add to that the fact that Vel came up with more spells than the average Magic card expansion (please see my CB forum avatar, made in a psychological pit of despair), and we've not made much progress.

I think this is the kind of eye candy work that takes a back seat to core game development, but fortunately for you the people working on it (like me) have nothing to offer the coders anyway.

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I don't care so much about the animation as I do the list of spells

And that alpha release date would be nice too

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Well, you never had to wait for that. Such information is readily available on the public portion of our forums, but I'll help you out:

http://www.pyromaniaks.net/candlebr...s=&threadid=222

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I get an average of 5 bps download through my ISP. That makes it a bit more than a few hours.


Are you sure that isn't five kps?

 
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