09-07-2003 01:37									#61
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"you conservatives", "you liberals"

you people who like to be categorized so easily!

	09-07-2003 02:35									#62
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In retrospect, I'd like to retract my earlier statement, that Savage makes Ann Coulter look like DinoDoc.

I've come to realize that this is very insulting to DinoDoc, and I'd like to apologize to him.

	09-07-2003 02:38									#63
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I'd rather grant legal residency to immigrants and then tax them. cha-CHING!

	09-07-2003 02:48									#64
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how do you tax someone who is collecting welfare?

	09-07-2003 02:51									#65
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quote: how do you tax someone who is collecting welfare?

illegal immigrants don't collect welfare, AFAIK... they work under the table... by legalizing and cataloging, we can begin to tax their income. DUH!

	09-07-2003 02:55									#66
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You aren't from California are you?

	09-07-2003 03:13									#67
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quote: You aren't from California are you?

I'm talking about national policies... California is ****ed up... I don't want any part of that mess.

	09-07-2003 03:18									#68
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National Policies are not a good basis of fact. I think I would base all facts of illegal immigration on those boarder states; Florida, Texas, New Mexico, California, and any state that is unlucky enough to boarder Canada...

I would leave immigration laws up to them as well, as they are the ones most affected by them (or the lack of them)... Like I really want Wyoming deciding what kind of vermin are running all over my state nor the kind of vermin that are actually running my state..

Ban Davis!

	09-07-2003 03:20									#69
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I would agree that states should have more of a say on immigration policies and controls, but the people are still entering the US, not just a state. Since citizenship and legal residence is determined by the Fed, I'd like to see them set some ground rules. The states can go from there.

	09-07-2003 03:23									#70
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I'd like to see the Fed do anything about changing immigration laws. Unfortunatly, they care more about what is happening in other countries...

	09-07-2003 04:44									#71
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quote: Unfortunatly, they care more about what is happening in other countries...

I agree. I think it would be wise to explore a reorganization of the government. Personally, I think the President's position should be seperated into two positions. One for domestic, one for foreign. Like two consuls in Rome. Each would have different responsibilities and each would have to sign off on certain pieces of legislation. I'd also like to see the Cabinet positions be filled like parliaments... proportionally according to popular votes. But all that is a topic for a different thread.

	09-07-2003 07:32									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Japher how do you tax someone who is collecting welfare?

Sales tax. Property tax (passed on in the form of increased rent).

	09-07-2003 10:30									#73
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I dont always agree with Savage but I like him.

If you were to take everything Savage says as truth, then all teenagers are doing drugs, all teenage girls are getting pregnant, every girl has at least one abortion, and the US is one giant near communist lovefest.

This transcript that was at the beginning of the thread sounds like it has been cookie cut to fit the authors intentions. Ile bet anything that if you take it in context with the WHOLE conversation it is not that bad (ile watch the show thursday cause i have it on tape) if it even is an insult.

Do not be suprised to see him back on tv because his show cut foxnews ratings in third and blew away CNN in the ratings

	09-07-2003 10:36									#74
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the article says it was only marginally better ratings.

I actually did watch his first episode on tv. It wasn't that good. He came on with sunglasses on. TV personalities should not wear sunglasses!! he acted like it was a radio show. It was funny because nothign worked right. They were trying to take calls and nothing was coming through.

But I'm sure his rating slipped. He did good the first week, but he just doesn't have that tv personality.

	09-07-2003 10:44									#75
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He's a gas bad and their ratings sucked.

	09-07-2003 10:50									#76
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I don't like bigots. and he sounds like one.

His Paul Revere society is a thinly veiled excuse for white dominance if you ask me.

In theory it sounds good. But we all know what he means by "culture". If he was talking about family values I would support that. But somehow I think he is talking about something else.

But I must protest an early poster saying O Reilly bashes liberals all the time. You are confusing him with Hannity- who does that day and night. O Reilly is hard on people yes, but he is hard on conservatives as well.

	09-07-2003 10:51									#77
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It's an act... like two drinking buddies joking with each other.

	09-07-2003 10:54									#78
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc O'Reilly doesn't do that, at least not on his Fox TV show. I haven't listened either his or Limbaugh's radio show.

You living in a glass jar, Reb?

	09-07-2003 11:03									#79
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how many people here listen to or watch savage on a regular basis? sarcasm obviously offends people..

have any of you watched "the last supper?" i would recommend it to all liberals and conservatives.

so does that mean everything that doesn't match with your own liberal belief system is wrong?

lets all get socialized medicine while were at it and wait for the offbrand medication that doesnt work to get here in a year!

	09-07-2003 11:03									#80
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quote: You living in a glass jar, Reb?

*coughTraiTORcough*

	09-07-2003 11:04									#81
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quote: lets all get socialized medicine while were at it!

We should.

	09-07-2003 12:42									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer whats wrong with that? am i missing something...

Dude haven't you heard? Upholding the law is mean, especially when the people breaking it are minorities.

	09-07-2003 12:43									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker "Last time I check O'Reilly was not a conservative" whoah....what does a guy have to do in America to earn conservative 'street cred'?

Apparantly actually be conservative.

	09-07-2003 12:43									#84
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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 id rather deport people on welfare than working illegal immigrants.

Perhaps we can compromise and deport them all.

	09-07-2003 17:49									#85
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quote: so does that mean everything that doesn't match with your own liberal belief system is wrong?

is everything that doesn't match with your own conservative belief system wrong?