09-07-2003 09:50									#1
	Turn 83 Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

To be edited by the Consuls and Ministers.

Status:
- Researching Republic at 60% (37)
- Luxury Slider at 0%
- 121 gold cash, +3 gpt


Urgent questions & tasks:
Settler 2 is heading for the tile that is 2-2-2-2-2 from Apolyton.

Settler 3 is heading for Mingapulco 3 2.

Intel: It would cost us 12 gold to examine a CDG city. If we examine one on our border, it would tell us if they are researching, how much, what they are building, and what their garrison is. This could go a long way towards settling discussions of ruse vs GCA or not. It would cost us one turn or less on Republic. E_T suggested it, I am in favour of it. The slider was set this turn to gain some gold, it can be reduced more next turn to gain the rest needed. The Consuls are acting on the assumption that the 120 gold reserve (3 sword upgrades) is not to be touched so that we can maximise our reponse if CDG does come north, so that 120 is treated as if it were not there for this issue.


Unit movement & actions:

G01 I. Princess of Apolyton moves 2-2-1 and uses fortify all with jagjef.
G02 II. Expedition moves 4-4-2 and uses fortify all with Flash.

N02 II. Mao moves 6 and fortifies.
N07 VII. moves 2.

S02 II. Flash moves 4-4 onto G02.

W02 II. BigFree moves 6-3-3 towards Temp City site.
W04 IV. Theseus fortifies in Hispanica.
W05 V. BFW moves to Incensity and fortifies.
W09 IX. PanzerWarrior moves to Apolyton and fortifies.

Economy:
Apolyton finished building a worker, starts builting a NM/Sword (6) - (Turn 1 of 6 schedualed)
Mingapulco building a Swordsman (2) - (Turn 5 of 6 scheduled)
Banatopia building an NM/Sword (5) - (Turn 2 of 6 scheduled)
Incensity building a NM/Sword (4) - (Turn 3 of 6 scheduled)
Tripoli building a Worker (2) - (Turn 3 of 4 schedualed)
Hispanica galley built, start building a worker (4) - (Turn 1 of 4 scheduled)
New City: Karina - start building walls (19) (turn 2 of 20 scheduled)

WF:
Apolyton: 3-4-12-13-?? (worker built) at start, Change to 3-4-13
Mingapulco: 2-3-10 at start. NC.
Bananatopia: 2-8=19 at start, NC.
Incensity: 5-7-17 at start. NC.
Tripoli: 19-20 at start. Change to 2-19.
Hispanica: 2-11 at start. NC
Karina: 3 at start, NC.

Workers:
Worker1: 'Dan': Clearing (5 Turns) Tripoli WF #7.
Worker2: 'Monkee': Clearing (5 turns) Tripoli WF #7.
Worker3: 'panag' Mining (5 turns) at Poly WF #1 (Inc WF #6).
Worker4: 'EVC' Clearing (3 turns) Mingapulco WF #5.
Worker5: 'Dejon' Clearing (3 turns) Mingapulco WF #5.
Worker6: 'MrWIA' move to Ming WF #7 (7-4).
Worker7: 'Rush' move to Ming WF #7 (7-4).
Worker8: Need a name for him will move (1-2-2) to Banana WF #17


Diplomacy:
CDG: NAP/Border treaty (to turn 109).
GCA: NAP in effect (to Turn 89).
CFC: NAP in effect (to Turn 83). FAM, lets get this extended??


Comment, please, many "plans" (especially those marked with '??') are just suggestions or ideas, not decisions already made.

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Discussion and basic reporting to follow. See the topped thread for comprehensive results

Last edited by Trip on 10-07-2003 at 10:04

	09-07-2003 11:02									#2
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For what it's worth, I think the city investigation is a good idea.

	09-07-2003 12:11									#3
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Settler 2 is going for Big Bend. Where is Settler 3 heading?

	09-07-2003 12:49									#4
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Temp City spot, BFM. It's 2-3 of Mingapulco.

	09-07-2003 13:04									#5
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Okay - but I thought we were still debating whether to found that city or not, depending on the results of your sim.

	10-07-2003 01:22									#6
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I was persuaded to build it by many others, sort of a Democracy in action.

The next debate is centered on building two more settlers immediately out of Banana and Apolyton and sending them to site 5(near gold hill) first, then site 3 (last border city).

	10-07-2003 01:35									#7
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When those Settlers are almost done, please add a picture of the region.

	10-07-2003 10:04									#8
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G01 I. Princess of Apolyton moves 2-2-1 and uses fortify all with jagjef.
G02 II. Expedition moves 4-4-2 and uses fortify all with Flash.

N02 II. Mao moves 6 and fortifies.
N07 VII. moves 2.

S02 II. Flash moves 4-4 onto G02.

W02 II. BigFree moves 6-3-3 towards Temp City site.
W04 IV. Theseus fortifies in Hispanica.
W05 V. BFW moves to Incensity and fortifies.
W09 IX. PanzerWarrior moves to Apolyton and fortifies.

	10-07-2003 10:38									#9
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Colors match in-game colors (estimates).

Values This Turn

GNP (commerce before corruption):
?, 45+, 38, 31, 29, 27, 21, 20

MFG (shields after waste):
?, 32+, 25, 23, 23, 21, 20, 14

Change From Last Turn

GNP (commerce before corruption):
+?, +?, +2, +2, +0, +3, +2, +2

MFG (shields after waste):
+?, +?, -2, -1, +0, +2, +2, +0

	10-07-2003 11:14									#10
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Orders in italics are changes from plans as posted above in this thread.


Status:
- Researching Republic at 60% (36) Changed to 20% (36) for this turn only to get the gold needed to investigate Cuido de Alcohol (12g)
- Luxury Slider at 0%
- 124 gold cash, +11 gpt


Urgent tasks:
Settler 2 is heading for the tile that is 2-2-2-2-2 from Apolyton.

Settler 3 is heading for Mingapulco 3 2.

Unit movement & actions:

G01 I. Princess of Apolyton moved 2-2-1 and used fortify all with jagjef.
G02 II. Expedition moved 4-4-2 and used fortify all with Flash

N02 II. Mao moved 6 and fortified.
N07 VII. moved 2.

S02 II. Flash moved 4-4 onto G02.

W02 II. BigFree moved 6-3-3 towards Temp City site.
W04 IV. Theseus fortified in Hispanica.
W05 V. BFW moved to Incensity and fortified.
W09 IX. PanzerWarrior moved to Apolyton and fortified.

Economy:
Apolyton finished building a worker, started building a Settler (6) - (Turn 1 of 6 scheduled)
Mingapulco building a Swordsman (2) - (Turn 5 of 6 scheduled)
Bananatopia building an NM/Sword (5) - (Turn 2 of 6 scheduled), Changed to a Settler (5) - (Turn 2 of 6 scheduled)
Incensity building a NM/Sword (4) - (Turn 3 of 6 scheduled)
Tripoli building a Worker (2) - (Turn 3 of 4 scheduled)
Hispanica galley built, started building a worker (4) - (Turn 1 of 4 scheduled)
New City: Karina - started building walls (19) (turn 2 of 20 scheduled)

WF:
Apolyton: 3-4-12-13-?? (worker built) at start, Changed to 3-4-13
Mingapulco: 2-3-10 at start. NC.
Bananatopia: 2-8-19 at start, NC.
Incensity: 5-7-17 at start. NC.
Tripoli: 19-20 at start. Change to 2-19.
Hispanica: 2-11 at start. NC
Karina: 3 at start, NC.

Workers:
Worker1: 'Dan': Clearing (5 Turns) Tripoli WF #7.
Worker2: 'Monkee': Clearing (5 turns) Tripoli WF #7.
Worker3: 'panag' Mining (5 turns) at Poly WF #1 (Inc WF #6).
Worker4: 'EVC' Clearing (3 turns) Mingapulco WF #5.
Worker5: 'Dejon' Clearing (3 turns) Mingapulco WF #5.
Worker6: 'MrWIA' moved to Ming WF #7 (7-4).
Worker7: 'Rush' moved to Ming WF #7 (7-4).
Worker8: Need a name for him moved 2-1-1 to Bananatopia WF 17

Last edited by MrWhereItsAt on 10-07-2003 at 16:28

	10-07-2003 11:28									#11
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And the little bit around Princess....

	10-07-2003 11:55									#12
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Ack! 5th in Population now...

	10-07-2003 11:56									#13
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster Ack! 5th in Population now...

We'll probably drop even lower when Poly and Banana spit out those Settlers.

	10-07-2003 13:56									#14
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And we have 7 cities now, with 1 more on the next turn and another on the turn after that.

We will also have Site 5 (near Gold hill 8-7-7-7 of Apolyton) AND Site 3 (last border city 2-2-1 of Hispanica) being settled in 8 and 9 turns, repectively, from now.

Settler from Apolyton will go to Site 5 and the settler from Bananatopia will go to site 3.

If we switched it aound and sent them to the other sites
will be settled it would still be 8 turns to get Site 5 settled form Bananatopia and 10 turns to get Site 3 settled from Apolyton as of this turn.

We will have a total of 11 cities in 10 turns from now. We have 7 right now. We can support on 28 units now, but with 11 we can support 44 at no cost to us. Incidently we are spending 4 gpt on unit cost now since we have 32 units to support.

	10-07-2003 16:38									#15
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Can I please, please, PLEASE have someone make a sim that starts with this turn and please post it here.

E_T

	10-07-2003 17:37									#16
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ET, it is posted in the turn 84 thread, you missed it by one turn!

	10-07-2003 21:07									#17
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A note on the CFC NAP extention:

ZargonX chatted with OctavianX and they are in agreement on a new NAP, except that they want to include borders in it. They are presently negotiating with CDG for borders and will then ask us to adopt the same border agreement.

I'm not entirely thrilled by this, but we'll wait and see what the actual proposal is before making any decisions. CFC isn't a threat to us at this time and a NAP is not required with them.

--Togas