10-07-2003 08:09									#1
	Hong Kong Democrats Victorious... Got spare money?

Basically, they've put the fork in the commie Beijing-appointed governor and the commie anti-subversion law dictated by Beijing. 500,000 demonstrated out of a total population of 7 million.

Rock on!

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	10-07-2003 08:12									#2
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Democrats? They won't know if democracy hits them in the head.

	10-07-2003 08:13									#3
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Well, at least they know what it isn't--i.e., bad laws dictated from the out of touch commies in Beijing.

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I don't know, even Martin Lee himself said Section 23 is okay.

	10-07-2003 08:18									#5
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And your point is.... ?

	10-07-2003 08:20									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I don't know, even Martin Lee himself said Section 23 is okay.

Is Section 23 anything like Section 31?

	10-07-2003 08:21									#7
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How could they be bad laws if both the Brits and the so called "Democrats" gave their approval?

	10-07-2003 08:27									#8
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Is Section 23 anything like Section 31?

More like Stayman

	10-07-2003 08:58									#9
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Basically, they've put the fork in the commie Beijing-appointed governor and the commie anti-subversion law dictated by Beijing. 500,000 demonstrated out of a total population of 7 million. Rock on! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...ml?nav=hptop_ts

The boys in Peking and I mean Peking may still have the last vote.
Don't be surprise if they excised that vote and whack a few thousand heads.

	10-07-2003 09:00									#10
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quote: Is Section 23 anything like Section 31?

No more than the KGB was like the Tal Shiar.

	10-07-2003 09:01									#11
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maybe we should get ready for tian an men square 2.0

	10-07-2003 09:02									#12
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The Party is trying to make Hongo Kong inot a model to show they can be nice. So they had to back down. Too bad such an attept anywhere else in China would not be recieved as passively by the Party.

	10-07-2003 09:04									#13
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Basically, they've put the fork in the commie Beijing-appointed governor and the commie anti-subversion law dictated by Beijing. 500,000 demonstrated out of a total population of 7 million. Rock on! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...ml?nav=hptop_ts

I hope to god that someday Hong Kong will become seperate from China. China seems to be unable to break it's dictatorial history, and the citizens of Hong Kong should not have to endure what the citizens of China have had to endure for years.

Of course, I also advocate the liberation of China as well.

	10-07-2003 09:10									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 China seems to be unable to break it's dictatorial history, and the citizens of Hong Kong should not have to endure what the citizens of China have had to endure for years.

Like being second class citizens under British rule?

	10-07-2003 09:12									#15
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Please. It's not like we were Nazis or anything to HK.

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No, but all the highest officials were Brits, and all the rules were either made in Whitehall or in the British Parliament.

Things got steadily better since the '80s, but Patten screwed us up bad.

	10-07-2003 09:24									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Like being second class citizens under British rule?

No, I'm thinking about pictures like these (no dead ones. Though I found PLENTY!)







I mean as an independant political entity with its own government structure and democracy.

	10-07-2003 09:25									#18
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Well, Hong Kong was a dominion. The US does it to Hawaii. France does it to Corsica. New Zealand did it to Samoa.

Why is Hong Kong any different?

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Tassadar: I returned from Hong Kong two weeks ago after a week there, and I must admit some of the buildings there are pretty modern, and put shame to those pictures there.

However, it has to be impressed that a lot of the buildings from British periods are somewhat "shoddy".

Most the buildings from post-Britain are most flash indeed (I point out in particular the airport and the Mass Transit System). The hotel I was in (Holiday Inn, Downtown Hong Kong) was next to a place called Chungking House. It was the most derilect building I had ever seen in a metropolis, and no effort what so ever had been made to restore it.

I realise Hong Kong is a S.A.R. to Beijing, but killing non-Chinese history like that was quite shocking, to say the least.

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Some pictures of HONG KONG:

I like this picture. It shows a small boat in the face of an advanced, modern city.






HONG KONG SPECIAL ADMINISTRATIVE REGION

	10-07-2003 09:40									#21
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I'll post some pictures of my visit to HK soon.

But I must tell Tassadar those buildings above were all made from bamboo scaffolding.

Go figure.

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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy Well, Hong Kong was a dominion. The US does it to Hawaii. France does it to Corsica. New Zealand did it to Samoa. Why is Hong Kong any different?

I was just responding to Tassadar, as he seems to think that we were better off under colonial rule.

	10-07-2003 09:44									#23
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Right. This one is taken from mainland Hong Kong, on the way to the airport.

If you look in the middle of the photo, across the sea, you can see Tassadar's building, dwarfed by the surrounding ones.

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	10-07-2003 09:46									#24
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Next is a port. Look at those containers!

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	10-07-2003 09:48									#25
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Lastly, the suspension bridge connecting the mainland with Hong Kong Island.

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	10-07-2003 09:49									#26
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I wish I had taken some of Hong Kong at night. It really was a site to behold.

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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy If you look in the middle of the photo, across the sea, you can see Tassadar's building, dwarfed by the surrounding ones.

Yeah right

	10-07-2003 10:24									#28
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Frozzy -- we do what to Hawaii?

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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I was just responding to Tassadar, as he seems to think that we were better off under colonial rule.

Ah, I can easily trip you up with two simple words: QUOTE ME

I'm simply saying that becoming an independant political entity (read: a country) would be better for Hong Kong in the long run.

	10-07-2003 12:07									#30
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Like Singapore? If you mean this, then most certainly