11-07-2003 19:12									#1
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I know you already had a thread on this Dissident, but I can't find it. Sorry.

Now that I've had a good listen, I have to say that I really like the new one from Metallica. This is the best album from them in the last 10 years. "Frantic" is great - a high energy track that reminds me of the old Metallica. Other favorites are "St Anger", "Dirty Window", "Shoot Me Again" and "The Unnamed Feeling". Another great thing about this album is the DVD that came with it. You get to see all the songs on the album performed by Metallica in the studio. The new bass player rocks! He reminds me of Cliff.

After being a Metallica fan for so long, I almost feel like I know these guys. It's great to hear that James has sorted his head out and is clean and sober.

Can't wait for the next one.

	11-07-2003 19:39									#2
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2 word review

Sh1t Anger.

	11-07-2003 19:40									#3
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Thanks for that.

	11-07-2003 19:42									#4
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That's OK.

I think it sounds terrible. The riffs are boring, the songs are dull, repetitive and predictable. The vocals and drums sound like they have been produced by a kid in his bedroom and there are no solos. Oh and the lyrics suck.

	11-07-2003 19:44									#5
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How many times have you listened to it?

	11-07-2003 19:47									#6
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The single a lot of times, the rest only a couple.

I've heard people say it gets better if you listen to it more but I really can't motivate myself to do it.

	11-07-2003 19:49									#7
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It really does get better if you listen to it more. I found watching the DVD helps too. For some reason I get into someones music more when I see them play it.

	11-07-2003 19:51									#8
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I've seen them play a few of the songs live at the Rock Am Ring thing that's been on MTV2... I still much prefer the old stuff.

You are right that it's their best album for 10 years but it's still not nearly as good as the stuff that is more than 10 years old.

	11-07-2003 20:03									#9
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The thing is that they will probably never get back to the Puppets/Lightning style. I reckon they still have a great album left in them though.

When the Black album came out all the hardcore fans hated it, but it's really a great album.

Load and Reload are probably their worst. That and Kill 'em all.

If you were to list your favorite Metallica albums in order, what would they be?

Mine:

1 - Lightning/Puppets
2 - Black album
3 - Justice
4 - St Anger
5 - Load/Reload/Kill

	11-07-2003 20:03									#10
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When they played the single in Ziggys I thought it was nu-metal.

	11-07-2003 20:05									#11
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I really like the Black Album, I have to say I thought that was out more than 10 years ago though.

1. Master of Puppets
2. Ride the Lightning
3. Kill 'em All
4. Smell the Glove (Black Album)
5. And Justice For All
6. St Anger
7. Load/Reload

	11-07-2003 20:08									#12
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH I really like the Black Album, I have to say I thought that was out more than 10 years ago though.

Yeah, it was. That's why I rated it higher than St Anger on my list.

quote: 1. Master of Puppets 2. Ride the Lightning 3. Kill 'em All 4. Smell the Glove (Black Album) 5. And Justice For All 6. St Anger 7. Load/Reload

You like Kill 'em All more than Justice or the Black album?? Kill 'em All just doesn't do it for me. It's too amateurish.

	11-07-2003 20:12									#13
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Yeah, it's got so much raw energy, I really like it.

Four Horsemen has one of their greatest riffs, Metal Militia is great, as is Seek and Destroy.

	11-07-2003 20:16									#14
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Yeah, it's got so much raw energy, I really like it. Four Horsemen has one of their greatest riffs, Metal Militia is great, as is Seek and Destroy.

I like Jump in the Fire best. When they play Kill 'em All songs live they sound better IMO.

	11-07-2003 20:19									#15
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Yeah, it isn't a brilliantly produced album, it's just got good songs.

BTW, everyone should download my band's songs. Link in sig.

	11-07-2003 20:24									#16
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I only heard Rock Cliche and another soft one before. I'll check out the other ones and let you know what I think.

As for my music...

I haven't really had time to do much except record a few riffs I made up after a few drinks and a toke or two. I still need to put them together into some kind of structure with drums etc. The biggest thing is programming the drum machine - a pain in the arse.

	11-07-2003 20:31									#17
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Cool.

Yeah, I remember you sent me some riffs. It'd probably be easier if you could find some people to play with maybe...

	11-07-2003 20:37									#18
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I'd love to collaborate with others, but it just isn't practical without a car - something which would be a huge waste of money at this point.

Just listened to Painless and Helix - I like them a lot. You guys have really found your groove. Must be the new singer.

	11-07-2003 20:40									#19
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Yeah... unless you could find someone to collaborate with who has a car?

Thanks. I think we've got a lot better with those two songs. Magic Helmet is a really rocking one if you like that kind of thing.

	11-07-2003 20:43									#20
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Yeah... unless you could find someone to collaborate with who has a car?

So few people in NYC do.

quote: Thanks. I think we've got a lot better with those two songs. Magic Helmet is a really rocking one if you like that kind of thing.

Just listened to it. I like it, but I think the vocals are buried by the guitar.

	11-07-2003 20:49									#21
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I think "Carpet Burns" is my least favorite, but don't feel bad - every band needs some filler.

	11-07-2003 20:52									#22
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That's OK, I agree we have been having arguments about that because most of us want to drop it from the set but lots of fans like it.

	11-07-2003 20:54									#23
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Hmmm...well if the fans like it you might as well keep playing it then. Just don't break up the band over it.

	11-07-2003 20:55									#24
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Nah, we argue about all kinds of things. What songs to play is a minor one.

I think they like the songs from our last CD (Rock Cliche and Carpet Burns) because they know them best.

	11-07-2003 20:59									#25
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Best not to get rid of something everyone knows at this point then. You can always do that a few years down the road when you're rich and famous.

Are you guys based in London?

	11-07-2003 21:03									#26
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No, Reading but it's close enough to London to head into there for gigs.

	11-07-2003 22:40									#27
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It sucked. Im glad i didnt buy it. Thank you mIRC!

	12-07-2003 08:08									#28
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Metallica are in thrall to the Dark Lord Bill Gates.:P

Anyways, the song has good moments, but is too long. There is no reason for a song to be over three minutes. This is doubly true if it's that long due to repeats of the lyrics.

	12-07-2003 11:06									#29
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whew! I thought I was the only one who liked this album. I didn't like it that much at first, but after 2 listens I'm hooked.

My favourite song from the album without a doubt- all within my hands. I love it. Other good ones: some kind of monster (heavy kind of like the thing that should not be), St. Anger, Frantic, Dirty Window, Sweet Amber. Invisibile kid has silly lyrics, but it has a catchy riff, and a cool song. Shoot me again is alright as well. I still don't like My World.

	12-07-2003 11:29									#30
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I like long things. I like movies over 2 hours, and I like songs over 5 minutes. Maybe there is something wrong with me.

I was relistening to all the previous Metallica albums. At one point I was convinced St. Anger is better than the Black album. But I'm not so sure of that now. It's very difficult to compare- they sound so different. But I was listening to the Black album, and it sounded so weak. I think one reason I like the new album is because I'm an old school Metallica fan. I started listening in the Master of Puppets years. And I'm a huge fan of the and Justice for All album- an album that doesn't get a lot of high praise.

And for some reason I don't like Ride the Lightning that much. Everyone else likes it. Fade to Black is too depressing- even for me . The album is too short- which wouldn't be a problem if every song was fantastic like the Master of Puppets album. Trapped uner Ice is weak. Fight Fire with fire has a terrible choruse section. Ride the Lightning is okay, but for a title song, it could be better.

album rankings, in order (scale 1 to 10)

And Justice for All 10
Master of Puppets 10
St. Anger 9
Kill em' All 8
Black Album 8
Ride the Lightning 7
Load 7
Reload 6