12-07-2003 22:38									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Sava, you can stop the self hating. The Europeans didn't do much better.

Yes but what amazes me is that Al Qaeda destroys the World Trade Centre and America bombs the f*ck out of Afghanistan and yet 42% of the Americans polled STILL don't know that they were based in Afghanistan OR that 83% couldn't even place the country on a map...! That is f*cked up!

Also, why is it that the Canadians are waaaay smarter than their neighbours regularly scoring 10-20+% more in most of the questions?

	12-07-2003 22:41									#32
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42% of Americans didn't know the Taliban and al Qaeda movements were bases in Afghanistan. No wonder Dubbya found so much support to attack Iraq to defeat terrorists.

Answer 6 - Kashmir question - China also has claims, but there haven't been any significant skirmishes in over 30 yrs..

find Russia - 38% of Americans couldn't
find Japan - 58% of Americans couldn't
find Sweden - 84% of Americans couldn't
find Afghanistan - 83% of Americans couldn't

Sweden should be safe from US attack - unless they mistake it for someplace else.

I notice that Swede's scores were usually in first or second place. Our Finns should consider becoming Swedes.

Also, If we use our already established "I'm With Stupid" rules, "I don't Know" would be the correct answer to most of the questions, giving Americans the most consistently correct answers.

oh, and 20/20 of course !

	12-07-2003 22:54									#33
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@ the Anti-american troll.

	12-07-2003 23:00									#34
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quote: A total of 300 interviews were conducted in each country except the U.S.; in the U.S. nearly 500 interviews were conducted with 18-to 24-year-olds and an additional sample of more than 300 25-to 34-year-olds

The Americans were supposed to have an advantage with almost half their pollsters being 25-34 y.o.'s - Oops!

	12-07-2003 23:03									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel @ the Anti-american troll.

Hey, I LOVE Americans ! They make me proud to be a Canadian.

	12-07-2003 23:04									#38
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The second question about religious adherents is a bit unfair given the numbers are quite close, I guessed lucky but heard both Islam and Christianity had about a billion each. But it was interesting how the percentages of accurate respondents depended in part on where they live and where the question was dealing with. Like Mexico had the lowest number of people who knew the ME exported the most oil while Mexico has sufficient domestic oil production so they don't need ME oil. And the Pacific rim countries did better on the El Nino question than Europeans who don't see much of an effect from it because they're half way around the world. Plus, Euros scored lowest on locating the Pacific, while peoples in the western hemisphere were lowest on questions about Europe and Asia. What's the saying? All politics is local? Kind of what we see here...

Oh yeah, 20/20 with 1 lucky guess.

	12-07-2003 23:08									#40
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Yeah, Mexico was kinda scary in not knowing what 'West' was!

And US sucks at geography... again. Though only 51% of people from the UK knew where Mexico was... which I thought was kinda strange. And pitiful amounts from every country had no idea where Afghanistan was.

I guess all politics is local, as Berz said.

	12-07-2003 23:09									#41
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quote: Sweden should be safe from US attack - unless they mistake it for someplace else.

Hey, maybe Sweden is the stealth nation, not Canada.

	12-07-2003 23:11									#42
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Azazel, does that graph show actual Christians or just populations from "Christian" countries?

	12-07-2003 23:11									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel And other people don't know where Sweden is. Sweden is the true Stealth nation.

	12-07-2003 23:12									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Azazel, does that graph show actual Christians or just populations from "Christian" countries?

Since the paragraphs "Non-religious" and "Atheist" exist, I think the number is about right.

	12-07-2003 23:16									#45
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I've heard Muslims and Christians are about a billion each, so I'd be surprised if there were 2 billion Christians. Oh well, as for being ignorant, I did get the question right.

	12-07-2003 23:19									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel quote: Also, while everyone is pretty terrifyingly stupid, the Swedes are less so than others. And other people don't know where Sweden is. Sweden is the true Stealth nation.

That's just because it's tucked between Norway and Finland.

And we're the stealth nation. Notice how they didn't even bother asking where Canada was? They knew nobody would get it.

	12-07-2003 23:30									#47
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Kick butt. I scored 20/20 ... but I was *disturbed* to see that only 89 percent of Americans could locate the United States on a global map. What the hell's up with that?

Oh, hey. It also says that folks who have taken geography courses and use the Internet did better on the survey than those who had done only one of the above or neither of the above.

Gatekeeper

(P.S. The toughest question was locating Sweden on the global map. It was just a matter of extrapolation, but it's such a small country located near a bunch of small countries ... )

	12-07-2003 23:34									#48
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quote: I've heard Muslims and Christians are about a billion each, so I'd be surprised if there were 2 billion Christians. Oh well, as for being ignorant, I did get the question right

No problem.

quote: And we're the stealth nation. Notice how they didn't even bother asking where Canada was? They knew nobody would get it.

touche.

	12-07-2003 23:36									#49
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IIRC, the Israel question was the only one the US scored better on than we did. Interesting (and I'm including the US question...which 95% of us got, but only 89% of them)

	12-07-2003 23:37									#50
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quote: Sava, you can stop the self hating. The Europeans didn't do much better.

self hating would mean that I am part of the large group of dumbass people in America who can't find Sweden... while I may be a dumbass, I'm not part of that ignorant group. And I don't necessarily hate those morons... I just mock them. Perhaps if you were living in America, you'd have a greater appreciation for how the stupid are screwing up this country.

	12-07-2003 23:43									#51
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quote: IIRC, the Israel question was the only one the US scored better on than we did. Interesting (and I'm including the US question...which 95% of us got, but only 89% of them)

Well, congratulations. still, both of your populations don't where it is. at least 80% of them.

quote: self hating would mean that I am part of the large group of dumbass people in America who can't find Sweden... while I may be a dumbass, I'm not part of that ignorant group. And I don't necessarily hate those morons... I just mock them. Perhaps if you were living in America, you'd have a greater appreciation for how the stupid are screwing up this country.

Neither can 2/3s of the French, their fellow europeans. get over it.

	12-07-2003 23:44									#52
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quote: Neither can 2/3s of the French, their fellow europeans. get over it.

I'll get over it when stupidity stops creating problems for me. I don't give a sh1t about French or Euro's... they don't control what happens in my country... not directly anyways. so MYOFB

	12-07-2003 23:47									#53
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It never fails to amaze me. Why do you hold americans to higher standards? You people aren't better, you know.

	12-07-2003 23:50									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Perhaps if you were living in America, you'd have a greater appreciation for how the stupid are screwing up this country.

Starting from the top down...

I spent almost 3 months travelling across the US, I can vouch for what Sava says - they're everywhere...

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quote: It never fails to amaze me. Why do you hold americans to higher standards? You people aren't better, you know.

I hold everyone to higher standards, I just care about Americans because they are the ones that directly affect my life. You never see me b1tching about dumbass Israelis... I don't care about them... because if my dumbass can answer these questions, there's no reason, barring mental illness, that anyone can't.

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quote: they're everywhere...

especially those Bengal's fans...

	12-07-2003 23:54									#57
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I can understand some people getting the Christian question wrong, because some consider 'Christian' and 'Catholic' to be seperate. They do have some major differences and it is a great schism, but ultimatly they are the same religion.

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quote: Ok, cool. I just decided that I don't care.

I used to feel that way... but when the stupid started causing me headaches... I had to speak out. Not only does 'Poly give me the opprotunity to express myself, but quite often, it gives me direct access to representatives of the "stupid".

	13-07-2003 00:01									#60
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The French know where Sweden is, they just refuse to find it on a map because we insist on speaking English when we visit France

The Germans did better, I guess they know that Poland (other alternative) is not Sweden

As for stealth nation, that's still Canada. As someone said, we are just hiding between Norway and Finland