13-07-2003 01:31									#1
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I'd like to be able to watch what I see on my computer on my TV. I know I must own a TV Tuner card. I don't know much about them, so...Which ones are higher quality, which ones aren't, what are potential pitfalls to avoid when purchasing one...

Thanks.

	13-07-2003 01:32									#2
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No idea.

	13-07-2003 01:34									#3
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I'd like to know too.

I'm planning on buying one, and I hope it's possible to stream it over an 802.11b network.

I want to stream it on my laptop anywhere in the house.

	13-07-2003 01:37									#4
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You need a graphic card that has tv-out ability?

	13-07-2003 01:41									#5
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No, he wants a card so he can watch television on his PC.

Hauppage and stuff makes the most common ones.

TV-in, not TV-out.

	13-07-2003 01:42									#6
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Well I just installed an example version of geForce FX 5200 that had a TV out option.

I'm not sure how 'good' it is, since I didn't test it, but I guess that most modern cards should have a rather decent TV-OUT option.

	13-07-2003 01:42									#7
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You don't need a tuner. You need SVideo out on a video card. Of course, a tuner may have that if you don't want to replace your video card.

A TV turner would allow you to watch a TV signal (cable) on you computer. Some do radio signals as well.

Asher, check out MSI TV@nywhere. I don;t play with these things, but I have heard good things about that product among all the others.

	13-07-2003 01:43									#8
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quote: I'd like to be able to watch what I see on my computer on my TV

sounds like see computer --> on TV

	13-07-2003 01:43									#9
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Asher, ok, after reading the question many times I still thought he meant the other way .

	13-07-2003 01:44									#10
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watch what I see on my computer on my TV

I interpreted that as wanting to see civ on the TV. TV out.

	13-07-2003 01:45									#11
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Siro, I have Radeons 9000pro 128megs and it gives me decent picture, even though it's not the latest card and certainly not the best. Depends how good quality Tass wants, and what he really meant.

	13-07-2003 01:50									#12
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Ohhhh, the TvTuner thing threw me off.

	13-07-2003 02:08									#13
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I've heard bad things about Raedon plain capture cards (no clue about tv-in with normal cards). Check pricegrabber.com- last time I looked, they had some in the mid-$50 range.

	13-07-2003 02:12									#14
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Oh, and Pekka: I've got the exact same card. How did you get the TV turner to work ? Mine refuses to accept a signal...

	13-07-2003 02:15									#15
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Really? I had no problems.. I use scart though.

Are you sure your settings are correct in the display settings?

	13-07-2003 04:09									#16
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Hmmm... Tuners aren't necessarily the best approach, especially if your screen is more than 15" or so, since there is often a lot of interference from the other components of your computer.

You would be further ahead using a high-quality VCR as the tuner then feeding your computer with interlaced 480i video through s-video connection. Use the Prolink capture card without tuner ($42) for this approach.

Once you buy the card, use the application DScaler, which will turn interlaced video into progressive video suitable for display on your monitor.

	13-07-2003 18:57									#17
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if you don't plan on spending that much money, by a sub-50 usd ati tv wonder ve card.

then, before you bother installing those damned ati drivers, go and download dscaler at http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net

especially if you have winxp. ati's drivers have always been crappy, but believe me, you'll never see a driver set crappier than the one they've put out for the tvwonder ve.

you don't need the drivers to use dscaler, since it works directly with the hardware.