13-07-2003 05:51									#1
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It looks like we will soon discover Economics, and while that wasn't the first choice of the people, our King did his best with what brainpower is available to one not of the Science Field

However, this did illustrate the need for a second choice of technologies, thus the need for this poll.

Our first choice, from the last poll, is still Engineering.

Please post your 2nd choice, if Engineering is once again not available.

Should you have trouble deciding, feel free to choose any of the available techs, we are so advanced any of the available choices is fine.

* Sparrowhawk Minister of Science for the most Advanced Nation in the World!

Note: As the choices before Invention are getting limited, please post below the choice you would like us to set as a goal. i.e. Explosives have been mentioned, as have various forms of Government, but please post whatever you think should be our next goal.

	13-07-2003 10:19									#2
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War minister votes the only way the people would want.

	13-07-2003 14:30									#3
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I would say Explosives, Tactics and Fundi are now the 3 main techs to aim for.

	14-07-2003 05:45									#4
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This is just a stupid waste of time poll

	14-07-2003 05:59									#5
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This science minister wonders what the Minister of War would have me do...we have the prerequisites for two techs (Engineering and Navigation...plus Economics which we are currently researching). The people have already spoken as to having Engineering as our first choice, so the only other choice is Navigation obviously, or to 0 our science rate, and focus on war.

The actual reason for the poll, as I stated in my post, is to find out what goals people would like to set for the next technologies we should research.

Perhaps I spoke too much , and post too often , I will attempt to temper my enthusiasm and keep quiet until there is something more significant for the Science Minister to poll on . Until such time, I will stick to reading your opinions, and try not to voice my opinion (as I have stated, I have struggled with this democracy game concept, apparently I missed the point).

* Sparrowhawk the humble
Science Minister

	14-07-2003 07:05									#6
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I'm sorry

If the king gets the only option of navigation then I'm sure he will pick the only option.

	14-07-2003 08:03									#7
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LOL, I don't want to assume anything when it comes to rulers of a nation.

I think you are right, but as our options become limited, and we have less choices of what to research, the job of science minister becomes someone needless. However, I will find something to post about

Hopefully citizens start posting what our long term goals should be (as Atawa has done) and I can do a poll of long term objectives, and what the citizens want us to aim for in our scientific research.

Sparrowhawk
Minister of Science

	14-07-2003 16:03									#8
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I would prefer we turn science off for a while as the AI will follow suit and that will give us longer to make use of our vet crucs

	14-07-2003 18:07									#9
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Let's go Fundy, THEN kill science for awhile, and really make those crucs pay off!

General Hydey will bonk some alien civ heads for sure...

	15-07-2003 01:51									#10
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One important technology remains forgotten.

We can churn lots of calvary, but where will we send them?

What will our armies of engineers build?

That's why we should include Railroad as an important technology, and why I would vote Navigation ahead of Economics.

We cannot build AS.
Economics allows us to build the banned freight, tempting our leader to break our rules.

Navigation, with Physics allows us to build Steam Engine, only one technology away from Railroad.

	15-07-2003 01:54									#11
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Edit:



dp

Odd.

Last edited by Ben Kenobi on 15-07-2003 at 02:20

	15-07-2003 02:26									#12
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* MrWhereItsAt shrugs

Let's just research what the game gives us as an option that gives us the most stuff, or pushes us towards the tech that gives us the most stuff, whatever it is.

And how do you have the advisors on in your game?

	15-07-2003 02:35									#13
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt And how do you have the advisors on in your game?

Not sure if this question is aimed at me or not, but I will answer it anyway. (since I am the one that posted the screenshot of the science advisor)

Are we not supposed to have the advisors on? I have them on in all the games I play, and while they are usually better for a laugh then anything else, I was unaware they were supposed to be "turned off".

Did I miss something?

	15-07-2003 02:38									#14
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Ah - got it! You actually have The Multiplayer Gold Edition, perhaps. I have every other version of Civ2 but that, and the patch I got turns off movies. Is that it?

	15-07-2003 02:40									#15
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That's right, I do have the MPGE. I assumed all versions have it, though I beleive they can be "turned off".

I was unaware that other versions didn't have this feature. Learn something new every day I guess!

	15-07-2003 03:33									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk Are we not supposed to have the advisors on? I have them on in all the games I play, and while they are usually better for a laugh then anything else, I was unaware they were supposed to be "turned off". Did I miss something?

No you didn't miss anything, you are quite welcome to use the advisors if you feel they will help in your ministerial duties.

	15-07-2003 04:11									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk That's right, I do have the MPGE. I assumed all versions have it, though I beleive they can be "turned off". I was unaware that other versions didn't have this feature. Learn something new every day I guess!

Nono. Every version has it - I just needed an unofficial patch to "upgrade" my Civ2 to MGE, as I wasn't going to spend another $50NZ just for MP that I never use after having diligently bought Civ2, Scenarios and Fantastic Worlds. It disables the movies. I really wish MGE hadn't won that poll before the first DG.

	15-07-2003 04:31									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk This science minister wonders what the Minister of War would have me do...we have the prerequisites for two techs (Engineering and Navigation...plus Economics which we are currently researching). The people have already spoken as to having Engineering as our first choice, so the only other choice is Navigation obviously, or to 0 our science rate, and focus on war. The actual reason for the poll, as I stated in my post, is to find out what goals people would like to set for the next technologies we should research. Perhaps I spoke too much , and post too often , I will attempt to temper my enthusiasm and keep quiet until there is something more significant for the Science Minister to poll on . Until such time, I will stick to reading your opinions, and try not to voice my opinion (as I have stated, I have struggled with this democracy game concept, apparently I missed the point). * Sparrowhawk the humble Science Minister

don't listen to hydey, he must have been grumpy when he posted that.

Shame on you hydey

	15-07-2003 04:40									#19
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As you have most acurately pointed out, there is not much for me to be doing right now...

quote: Originally posted by Hydey This is just a stupid waste of time poll

So rather then waste your time, I choose to waste my own by checking out the mostly useless advice of the Ministers. I might even check out the Throne room if I really get bored , we all know what an acurate representation of the Civ that is

	15-07-2003 04:45									#20
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LOL, no harm done by Hydey, our Minister of War should be rather obnoxious and at times annoying, he is just playing his role well.

	15-07-2003 05:37									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk LOL, no harm done by Hydey, our Minister of War should be rather obnoxious and at times annoying, he is just playing his role well.

huh playing what role?

Just been my normal self

I am obnoxious and annoying

	15-07-2003 16:25									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey huh playing what role? Just been my normal self I am obnoxious and annoying

And so wonderfully honest, it would seem.

	16-07-2003 09:01									#23
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quote: our Minister of War should be rather obnoxious and at times annoying,

Then what about the cityplanner?

Stiff as a board?

	16-07-2003 16:08									#24
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Then what about the cityplanner? Stiff as a board?

Perhaps "thick as a brick"?

	17-07-2003 09:06									#25
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There's a two short planks joke in there somewhere...