15-07-2003 04:45									#1
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While researching the uses of tin, I came across this good website:

History of tin

Noting what the article says about iron and steel, it appears that bronze is very valuable in the early game. But bronze is an alloy of copper and tin. Making spearman units is an important jump, from defence of 1 to 2. But making spearmen require strategic resources of copper and tin might be a stretch. It doesn't appear that there would be a lot of use for tin in the game, beyond bronze-based units.

Copper, though, is useful later on. Here is a good website on the history and uses of copper. For Civ 3 gameplay purposes,
copper could be a pre-requisite for hydro plants (wiring), hospitals (piping), or even the Statue of Liberty if you want to bring that wonder back. Copper could also be a pre-requisite for the Internet, or anything you wanted to add dealing with magnetism, refrigeration or air conditioning. I know this isn't a new topic, but I'd appreciate any thoughts or comments, concerning these 2 metals and gameplay!

	15-07-2003 05:30									#2
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Yes, but how many nations have been without copper? AFAIK, it's far more common than even something like iron.

	20-07-2003 04:07									#3
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That's not true, iron is one of the most common elements on Earth. The molten core is largely made up of it. The main reason why Copper and Tin haven't been included in the game is that the Iron Age begins so quickly in the game, especially if your playing an expansionist civ.

	20-07-2003 04:28									#4
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Let me add: how many nations have mined the molten core?

	20-07-2003 07:22									#5
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker Let me add: how many nations have mined the molten core?

He he he. That's what I was thinking.

"Me Gronk. Me neanderthal man and me dig to core of earth for more iron. Grunt."

	26-07-2003 23:54									#6
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker Let me add: how many nations have mined the molten core?

You need to take a few geology courses, you obviously don't know how volcanoes and and tectonic plates work.

	31-07-2003 20:08									#7
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Well, now there's an incentive to build near a volcano... if its one of the few places to find iron in the game...

	01-08-2003 02:08									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Willem You need to take a few geology courses, you obviously don't know how volcanoes and and tectonic plates work.

I know how they work. However, people have NOT mined the liquid nickel/iron core at the center of the earth even indirectly.

	01-08-2003 07:37									#9
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Yeah, if we mined the Earth's core, we'd screw up our planet's magnetic field!

	02-08-2003 01:33									#10
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You know, I saw in discover this geologist thinks that it's actually uranium... the radioactive decay is what he says powers our magnetic field.

He has some pretty good evidence.